File spoon-archives/aut-op-sy.archive/aut-op-sy_2002/aut-op-sy.0203, message 346


Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:34:34 +1100
From: "-AT-ndy" <andy-AT-xchange.anarki.net>
Subject: Re: AUT: is leninism dead? was: Flooding


asc wrote:

> i was responding to the idea that leninism is dead not whether bureaucratic socialist states ever reached communism... in addition i've been toying with the idea that perhaps we learn more from these countries experiences as state capitalist or bureaucratic
> socialist (the term i prefer) than if they had simply been client regimes of the u.s., isn't this the point if one understands communism as the social movement that leads to a stateless classless society?

Miklós Haraszti, A Worker In A Worker's State, Pelican Books, 1977:

"The manuscript... was seized in Budapest and its young marxist author, a promising Hugarian poet, was brought to trial for writing it. The People's Court found that the manuscript was 'liable to provoke hatred of the state'. Haraszti himself was fined and given a
suspended sentence for 'grave incitement'.

...The different voices of personal experience, objective analysis and reported speech are woven together to create a convincing, gripping account, while the quality of the writing makes this sober and painful book enthralling to read."



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