Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:54:44 -0800 (PST)
From: asc <satellitecrash-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: AUT: Perplexed, all variations



--- cwright <cwright-AT-21stcentury.net> wrote:
> Hey Nate,
> 
> > What I mean to say is, how do we respond to
> struggles?
> 
> Exactly!
> 
> > So that while I agree with you about unions, I
> think it was better to
> support
> > the workers trying unionize the V+V plant here in
> Chicago, while expecting
> > that their contract probably wouldn't be all that
> great and the union
> > wouldn't solve a lot of problems (which  is what
> happened).
> 
> Indeed, I supported the V&V workers, welcomed their
> coming to a DAN meeting
> and wished i had the means to develop a real
> relationship with them.
> However, I was not in that position.  Had I been, I
> simply would have
> promoted the idea that they absolutely could not
> afford to let the union run
> the organizing or negotiating, but that they should
> have their own worker
> controlled and elected committee for the effort. 
> This would most likely
> have meant a fight with the union too (someone I
> know in the middle of an
> organizing campaign in New York is doing exacltly
> that and has had to fight
> off the SEIU 1099 from sabotaging their unionization
> drive.  I'll forward
> you the e-mails if you'd like.  The organizer is
> also not pro-union as such,
> but she has been stuck with a union organizing drive
> as the means the
> workers are using.  At the same time, they have been
> completely independent
> of the union and have simply had to recognize that
> legal contracts involved
> belonging to a recognized union.  Of course, that
> also points to
> limitations, but that is another discussion.)
> 
Hi Chris,
do you know of any libertarian communist union
organizers? do you think they just get fired/can't
even get the job in the first place b/c of the
positions they advocate.

regardless i'm interested in first hand accounts of
union organizing drives where the organizer and many
of the workers were in opposition to the union
apparatus.
thanks,
-Sean


===="Any art that does make us yawn, you can throw away immediately. Don't bother with explanations. The hook! P.D.Q.! The hook for any artist who bores his audience, no matter how much trouble he may have taken, no matter how much time he may have spent studying."
  -Jean Dubuffet-

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