From: "Nate Holdren" <nateholdren-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: R: AUT: Translation of Casarini on Biagi Assasination
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 12:08:47 -0500


sorry all but I can't remember who Casarini is... someone please remind 
me...


>From: M <swerve-AT-onetel.net.uk>
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>Subject: R: AUT: Translation of Casarini on Biagi Assasination
>Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 08:38:43 -0000
>
>I don't know if anyone has mentioned it already - but for all conspiracy
>theorists out there - the magazine that broke the story of the secret
>services warning to the government that consultants to the labour ministry
>were probably targets the week before the killing was Panorama, owned by
>Silvio Berlusconi...
>
>-----Messaggio originale-----
>Da: owner-aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>[mailto:owner-aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu]Per conto di Laura 
>Fiocco
>Inviato: sabato 23 marzo 2002 8.38
>A: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>Oggetto: Re: AUT: Translation of Casarini on Biagi Assasination
>
>
>It is not so much surprizing!
>Whoever did the killing, the italian servizi segreti (the equivalent of
>CIA) knew a homicide was going to be done. How did they know?
>In any case, politically it is a murder pro-regime.
>ciao laura
>
>
>
>At 01.03 22/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> >Here is my translation of Casarini's surprizing
> >statement on the Biagi assasination.  Please
> >circulate.
> >The original can be found at:
> >http://www.sherwood.it/portal/article.php?sid=1644&mode=&order=0
> >
> >To All Civil Society by Luca Casarini (translated from
> >the Italian by Thomas Seay)
> >
> >What happened in Bologna is a horrible pro-regime
> >homicide.
> >I reaffirm this and I will continue to state this with
> >all my might along with thousands and thousands of
> >people, knowing that this thought is shared by a lot
> >of people.
> >
> >What does this mean?  It means that it is not the
> >"terrorism", as the term is being used, of a previous
> >time in this country.
> >Nor is it the "strategy of tension", which was
> >inaugurated in 1969 with a state planted fascist bomb
> >in Piazza Fontana.  Those two settings were completely
> >different from today, as were the culture, the
> >political and social climate in Italy as in the rest
> >of the world.  The needs of the various state
> >apparatus were different, the "field of action", the
> >nation-state
> >was different.  The thinking of thousands of youth,
> >who wanted to fight with arms, was different.
> >
> >Professor Biagi has been "had" killed in this time,
> >today.  Whoever reads the delirious emails going round
> >from those claiming responsibility can come to
> >understand a great deal.  The culture expressed in
> >those pages is dead and buried, with the society and
> >among the extraordinary new movements struggling for a
> >new democracy.
> >
> >That culture which speaks of "imperialism" instead, as
> >we do, of Empire, that culture which wants the
> >"Dictatorship of the Proleteriat" (what proleteriat?
> >Dictatorship?  Of what...globalization?) and not real
> >democracy; those skillfully composed phrases from
> >highly informed notions of economics and absurd
> >prehistoric readings of social development are not
> >expressions of a living, real subjectivity.
> >
> >They betray an abstraction of reasoning which belongs
> >more to maniacal psychotic pathology than to political
> >line.  To attribute to this, as some are doing, a
> >"destabilizing design" would be like attributing to it
> >the crime of the Florence "Monster" or to a serial
> >killer who comes out here and there.  These are serial
> >homicides not actions expressing a political will.
> >But they become political because they get spinned as
> >such by some political "manoeuvrer".  They are
> >homicides that stabilize.  They serve only those who
> >want to stop
> >the large-scale movements, to those who want to drag
> >us into a war against civilians, as we have seen in
> >Genova, New York and Afgahnistan in order to produce a
> >new despotic, anti-democratic sovereignty in which
> >violation of human rights is standard fare.
> >
> >It was a pro-regime homicide not only for the ignoble
> >political uses for which it is applied by the Italian
> >Manufacturers Association, the government and
> >political apparatuses, even those of the Left which
> >instead of saying what they know deep down continue to
> >cover up evidence.  It was also because it had been
> >announced, even called for by ministers, cabinet
> >members, and undersecretaries.  It was called for
> >because the social
> >struggles for rights and democracy, which had
> >expressed itself in these years in such a radical,
> >pacifist, disobedient way, still posed a danger.
> >
> >Marco Biagi knew he was in danger.  He had asked many
> >times for protection but was denied it by Minister
> >Scajola of Genoa.
> >
> >The article in a weekly magazine that clearly depicted
> >Biagi as a target
> >should probably be read as an attempt by someone
> >within one of the apparatuses
> >to make the plan to kill Biagi fail.  The article had
> >the sense to say as much in its preface.
> >Even the telephone call received by the professor on
> >Tuesday should be read more as a warning than a
> >threat.
> >If someone wants to kill you, they dont warn you
> >first.
> >
> >Here we are in the presence of a clash between State
> >apparatuses.
> >It is this complexity that explains the pro-regime
> >homicide.
> >It is the use of the one and the other - seven sickos
> >with a famous logo
> >and the military which moves about in full liberty -
> >that explains what
> >is happening now.  While immigrants are confronted by
> >navy boats,
> >the government calls a state of emergency.  While
> >more and more impunity is shown towards the powerful
> >and
> >corrupt, the weak are thrown in prison.  While control
> >of information
> >is centralized into fewer hands in a society that
> >lives on information,
> >the regime trys to block independent media out of
> >existence.
> >
> >These are my thoughts.  About this thing in the last
> >delirious document
> >put out by the sect that calls itself NTA.  I have
> >been targeted
> >as someone to take out. Maroni [Italian Minister of
> >Labor, Lega Norda]
> >has also marked me as a tarket to take out, naming me
> >by first and last name.
> >So we see that the two are in agreement.  If they want
> >to take me out
> >they know that on the 23rd I will be in Rome with my
> >comrades.
> >And I will struggle for a strike...of the entire
> >country for a new democracy.
> >
> >====> >"The tradition of all the dead generations
> > weighs like a nightmare on the brain of the living"
> >
> >-Karl Marx
> >
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