Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 14:56:47 -0500 From: Louis Proyect <lnp3-AT-panix.com> Subject: Re: AUT: Capitalist Cuba ? commie00: >by extension, every revolution that has taken the bolsheviks as a model >(including cuba, north korea, etc.) has seemed to end in some form of state >capitalism. now, the different ways this state capitalism has played out >(such as the differences between cuban and north korean state capitalism), >is kinda interesting... but clearly we won't have this discussion while we >disagree on the economic natures of these regimes. Actually, the first real model was the Paris Commune, which was even less of a break with capitalism than 1917 Russia. Not only was it was not truly "communist", the actual social measures were relatively tame: "Abolition of the nightwork of journeymen bakers; the prohibition, under penalty, of the employers' practice to reduce wages by levying upon their workpeople fines under manifold pretexts — a process in which the employer combines in his own person the parts of legislator, judge, and executor, and filches the money to boot. Another measure of this class was the surrender to associations of workmen, under reserve of compensation, of all closed workshops and factories, no matter whether the respective capitalists had absconded or preferred to strike work." http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1871/civil-war-france/ch05.htm Louis Proyect Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org --- from list aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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