From: "Nate Holdren" <nateholdren-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: AUT: Explications of The Savage Anomaly
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:07:57 -0400


Hi Chris-

You probably know this, but there's a bibliography of works both on and by 
Negri at the Amnesty for Toni Negri site -
http://lists.village.virginia.edu/~forks/TNbiblio.htm

This work is listed in the bibliography -

Walther, Manfred.  "Negri on  Spinoza's Political and Legal Philosophy" in 
Edwin Curley & Pierre-Francois Moreau, eds., Spinoza:   Issues and 
Directions (Leiden:  E.J.  Brill,  1990), pp.286-97.

I haven't read it and so can't vouch for it.

While I'm much more amenable to Negri than you, I think I have a similar 
experience to you/your friend. A lot of stuff I've read on Negri is written 
in a mode similar to Negri, employing influences and references I simply am 
unfamiliar with or don't understand, which makes understanding what 
everyone's on about really really difficult. Makes me feel like a kid in a 
room full of adults. Maybe Empire's bookselling success will lead to a Negri 
For Beginners book coming out, providing a more accessible place to start 
for those of us in the laiety.

I've read a little bit of Spinoza and started Savage Anomaly but left off, 
finding the language really daunting. Spinoza's a really important and 
interesting figure but for me he's almost entirely opaque. A truly god awful 
choice for authors to read on the bus. The same goes for Negri, so Negri 
writing on Spinoza was just too much for me.

I have the same response to Deleuze - fascinating, important, suggestive, 
provocative, now if I only knew what he was saying ...
I'm told his book Spinoza, Practical Philosophy (I think that's the title - 
it's his Spinoza book other than Expression in Philosophy) is quite clear 
and readable (and I'm told this by a friend with a similar intellectual 
training and sense of what constitutes clarity and readability).
I don't know enough about Negr-oloy to know if that Deleuze work is at all 
influential on Negri or would be useful to your friend.
Your friend might look at Hardt's dissertation. It's online somewhere. I can 
dig up the URL if you like.

Please pass on anything you find and please ask your friend to do the same.

all the best,
Nate


>From: cwright <cwright-AT-21stcentury.net>
>Reply-To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>Subject: Re: AUT: Explications of The Savage Anomaly
>Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:47:46 -0500
>
>Wow, its a banner day for me.
>
>Again, that aside, my friend has read the work already and was looking for 
>thoughtful, explanatory pro-Negri work on it, which he has so far been 
>unable to find (or at least which satisfies him.)  And just so your 
>academic bile does not froth over, he is already well-versed in Spinoza as 
>well so you don't need to tell him, when he disagrees with you, to go read 
>Spinoza.  Thanks.
>
>Cheers,
>Chris
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Ari
>   To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>   Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:37 PM
>   Subject: Re: AUT: Explications of The Savage Anomaly
>
>
>   reading the book is a good starting point, that is, assuming that your 
>friend doesn't share your petty narcisistic and irritating prejudice 
>against the N man. ex-planations or ex-plications would surely go amiss if 
>that was the case, since it would make it impossible to either 'unfold' or 
>work on the 'plane' of N's or Spinoza's work.
>
>
>
>   At 19:30 14/10/2002, you wrote:
>
>     Does anyone know of useful explications of Negri's arguments in The 
>Savage Anomaly?  That is, not just rehashes, but actual work which tries to 
>analyze what he means.  Rehashes are easy enough to find, but explanations 
>and analyses are less so.  This is for a friend working through Negri's 
>work on Spinoza.
>
>     Thanks in advance,
>     Chris
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