From: "cwright" <cwright-AT-21stcentury.net>
Subject: Re: AUT: Explications of The Savage Anomaly
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:46:59 -0500


Hey Nate, thanks!

I forgot about Hardt's dis, which I have bookmarked.  I will forward the
Amnesty for Toni Negri and see if he has not already gone over it, plus the
reference you gave me.

Cheers,
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nate Holdren" <nateholdren-AT-hotmail.com>
To: <aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: AUT: Explications of The Savage Anomaly


> Hi Chris-
>
> You probably know this, but there's a bibliography of works both on and by
> Negri at the Amnesty for Toni Negri site -
> http://lists.village.virginia.edu/~forks/TNbiblio.htm
>
> This work is listed in the bibliography -
>
> Walther, Manfred.  "Negri on  Spinoza's Political and Legal Philosophy" in
> Edwin Curley & Pierre-Francois Moreau, eds., Spinoza:   Issues and
> Directions (Leiden:  E.J.  Brill,  1990), pp.286-97.
>
> I haven't read it and so can't vouch for it.
>
> While I'm much more amenable to Negri than you, I think I have a similar
> experience to you/your friend. A lot of stuff I've read on Negri is
written
> in a mode similar to Negri, employing influences and references I simply
am
> unfamiliar with or don't understand, which makes understanding what
> everyone's on about really really difficult. Makes me feel like a kid in a
> room full of adults. Maybe Empire's bookselling success will lead to a
Negri
> For Beginners book coming out, providing a more accessible place to start
> for those of us in the laiety.
>
> I've read a little bit of Spinoza and started Savage Anomaly but left off,
> finding the language really daunting. Spinoza's a really important and
> interesting figure but for me he's almost entirely opaque. A truly god
awful
> choice for authors to read on the bus. The same goes for Negri, so Negri
> writing on Spinoza was just too much for me.
>
> I have the same response to Deleuze - fascinating, important, suggestive,
> provocative, now if I only knew what he was saying ...
> I'm told his book Spinoza, Practical Philosophy (I think that's the
title -
> it's his Spinoza book other than Expression in Philosophy) is quite clear
> and readable (and I'm told this by a friend with a similar intellectual
> training and sense of what constitutes clarity and readability).
> I don't know enough about Negr-oloy to know if that Deleuze work is at all
> influential on Negri or would be useful to your friend.
> Your friend might look at Hardt's dissertation. It's online somewhere. I
can
> dig up the URL if you like.
>
> Please pass on anything you find and please ask your friend to do the
same.
>
> all the best,
> Nate
>
>
> >From: cwright <cwright-AT-21stcentury.net>
> >Reply-To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> >To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> >Subject: Re: AUT: Explications of The Savage Anomaly
> >Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:47:46 -0500
> >
> >Wow, its a banner day for me.
> >
> >Again, that aside, my friend has read the work already and was looking
for
> >thoughtful, explanatory pro-Negri work on it, which he has so far been
> >unable to find (or at least which satisfies him.)  And just so your
> >academic bile does not froth over, he is already well-versed in Spinoza
as
> >well so you don't need to tell him, when he disagrees with you, to go
read
> >Spinoza.  Thanks.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Chris
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Ari
> >   To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> >   Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:37 PM
> >   Subject: Re: AUT: Explications of The Savage Anomaly
> >
> >
> >   reading the book is a good starting point, that is, assuming that your
> >friend doesn't share your petty narcisistic and irritating prejudice
> >against the N man. ex-planations or ex-plications would surely go amiss
if
> >that was the case, since it would make it impossible to either 'unfold'
or
> >work on the 'plane' of N's or Spinoza's work.
> >
> >
> >
> >   At 19:30 14/10/2002, you wrote:
> >
> >     Does anyone know of useful explications of Negri's arguments in The
> >Savage Anomaly?  That is, not just rehashes, but actual work which tries
to
> >analyze what he means.  Rehashes are easy enough to find, but
explanations
> >and analyses are less so.  This is for a friend working through Negri's
> >work on Spinoza.
> >
> >     Thanks in advance,
> >     Chris
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>
>
>
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