From: "Nate Holdren" <nateholdren-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: AUT: Demo numbers worldwide
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:20:10 -0500


Hi Chris-
Great list, very heartening, thanks!
Out of curiousity, are there approximate numbers anywhere of how many people 
voted for Bush in '00?
cheers,
Nate



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>From: chris wright <cwright.21stcentury-AT-rcn.com>
>Reply-To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>To: undisclosed-recipients: ;
>Subject: AUT: Demo numbers worldwide
>Date: 17 Feb 2003 23:26:28 -0600
>
>This is a listing of what I have seen so far internationally.  Note I am
>rounding numbers and this is NOT an attempt at a complete list.  I left
>a lot of places out.  Also, some numbers from Indymedia seem radically
>inflated, while others seem about right.  I checked the US numbers
>specifically and went with the lower-end estimates from Indymedia.
>Other numbers came from other reports internationally which I checked
>against Indymedia.  Roughly, 600 cities worldwide (and that is prolly
>leaving out a lot of small demos, like in Athens, GA, which at 300 was
>the largest demo in downtown Athens in decades!) and over ten million
>people, easily.  Maybe more like tens of millions, given that nearly ten
>million marched in Europe alone.
>
>This does not pretend to say anything about the character of the
>demonstrations, which varied wildly and widely in character, as did
>police response (for example, the isolation of thousands of marchers in
>New York City and the arrest of over 300 people, and the hospitalization
>of more.)
>
>One interesting point: the appeal to the UN is not necessarily a bad
>thing, on the part of non-activists.  Here's why: for the first time,
>including in the US, there is a sense that is emerging that actions like
>war are a matter of international concern and that people world wide
>have a right to say something.  It indicates a level of
>internationalism, in a weak form, but real nonetheless, that I think is
>new and unique prior to a war.  So while I am against any idea that the
>UN would be a good way to handle this, since it could not be, the
>orientation of millions of people worldwide (and not just the ones who
>marched) towards a basic internationalism is a good thing.  We need to
>find a way to speak to this and not merely write off the "the UN would
>be better" sentiment as liberalism.
>
>US:
>LA - 30,000 (Indymedia claims 75-100,000)
>Chicago - 6,000 (current Indymedia claims are 7,000, as it apparently
>grew a lot after it got started.  The Chicao PD estimate was 6,000)
>Philadelphia - 10,000
>Minneapolis - 7,500
>San Diego - 10,000
>Hawaii (across about 3 cities on 3 islands) - 1,500
>New York - 500,000
>San Francisco - 200,000
>
>Canada:
>Edmonton - 2,500 (Indymedia claims 10,000)
>Toronto - 50,000 (the Toronto Star reported up to 80,000!)
>Vancouver - 30,000
>
>Oslo, Norway - 60,000
>Rome, Italy - 2 million
>London, England - 1 million
>Lisbon, Portugal - 80,000
>Canberra, Australia - 10,000
>Melbourne, Australia - 100,000 (though the state media, ABC, is claiming
>150,000 and Indymedia is claiming 200,000!)
>Sydney, Australia - 200-250,000
>Tokyo, Japan - 25,000
>Buenos Aires, Argentina - 15,000
>Xania, Crete - 2,500 (60,000 people in Xania)
>Alicante, Spain - 70,000
>Barcelona, Spain - 500,000
>Madrid, Spain - 1 million (2 million according to Indymedia)
>Las Palmas, Spain - 100,000
>Seville, Spain - 250,000
>Cadiz, Spain - 100,000
>Vienna, Austria - 20,000
>Sao Paulo, Brazil - 30,000
>Rio de Janeiro, Brazil - 15,000
>Johannesburg, South Africa - 10,000
>Stockholm, Sweden - 80,000
>Gotenberg, Sweden - 30,000
>Glasgow, Scotland - 50,000
>Mexico City, Mexico - 50,000
>Stuttgart, Germany - 50,000
>Berlin, Germany - 500,000
>Irunea, Spain - 20,000
>Barcelona, Spain - 1 million
>Budapest, Hungary - 20,000
>Warsaw, Poland - 3,000
>Paris, France - 800,000
>Dublin, Ireland - 100,000
>Amsterdam, Netherlands - 100,000
>Athens, Greece - 200,000
>Helsinki, Finalnd - 15,000
>Bern, Switzerland - 40,000
>Copenhagen - 35,000
>
>Other notes:
>
>The Atlanta City Council adopted a resolution, 03-R- 0195, at its Feb 3,
>2003 meeting, which opposes war in Iraq and calls on the Administration
>of the United States to seek more peaceful means to settle international
>differences.
>
>If anyone has corrections, please make them known.
>
>Cheers,
>Chris
>
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