File spoon-archives/aut-op-sy.archive/aut-op-sy_2003/aut-op-sy.0302, message 222


Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:45:10 +0000
Subject: Re: AUT: Demo numbers worldwide
From: svejk <anterotesis-AT-yahoo.co.uk>


More numbers:

 From a post on a-infos:
Ljubljana-Slovenia 7000-1000

John

Post follows:

In Ljubljana-Slovenia from 7000-10000 people gathered. This was the 
biggest
antiauthoritarian demo in Slovenia after the independance. The 
initiative
for organisation of the F15 demo took the usual activist network in 
wich the
anarchists are very active. So, the number of people on demo was a 
surprise
and a great success. I think this is a result of resistance against 
NATO and
a long lasting antiNATO campaign. What i see important is the fact that 
so
many people was not gathered by some party or NGO-s - it was gathered by
radical leftist, antiauthoritarians and anarchists. The message of the 
demo
was not focused just on Iraq, but also against the system, globalised
capitalism and its impact on the situation in Slovenia. Slovenia sign a
Vilneus Declaration in which it fully supports the unitelar attack on 
Iraq
by USA. The demo was just another sign that people dont agree with the
slovenian government and state politics. The position in parliment and
government is rulled by LDS for over 10 years now (Liberal democrats -
totaly neoliberal capitalist influence; joining NATO and EU are their
suprior points) . I think their days are numbered and also i really 
believe
that the people will say on referendum for NATO - NO! What is also
interesting is that also the oposition in pro-NATO and pro-EU and that 
means
that when the referendums will fall for them - people of Slovenia must
demand that the whole politic-elite garnitury go down. Offcourse when 
this
happens, we will have a lot of work to do with saying to people that 
another
elections or different government is not the answer, solution or
alternative. Anarchists will for sure be very active in the struggle 
for a
real alternative. But we are not there yet.....

Otherwise I was for antiwar demo in greece, so i cant give you details 
on
how the massive demo in Ljubljana went through. Comrades say that it was
fucking great.


On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 05:26  am, chris wright wrote:

> US:
> LA - 30,000 (Indymedia claims 75-100,000)
> Chicago - 6,000 (current Indymedia claims are 7,000, as it apparently
> grew a lot after it got started.  The Chicao PD estimate was 6,000)
> Philadelphia - 10,000
> Minneapolis - 7,500
> San Diego - 10,000
> Hawaii (across about 3 cities on 3 islands) - 1,500
> New York - 500,000
> San Francisco - 200,000
>
> Canada:
> Edmonton - 2,500 (Indymedia claims 10,000)
> Toronto - 50,000 (the Toronto Star reported up to 80,000!)
> Vancouver - 30,000
>
> Oslo, Norway - 60,000
> Rome, Italy - 2 million
> London, England - 1 million
> Lisbon, Portugal - 80,000
> Canberra, Australia - 10,000
> Melbourne, Australia - 100,000 (though the state media, ABC, is 
> claiming
> 150,000 and Indymedia is claiming 200,000!)
> Sydney, Australia - 200-250,000
> Tokyo, Japan - 25,000
> Buenos Aires, Argentina - 15,000
> Xania, Crete - 2,500 (60,000 people in Xania)
> Alicante, Spain - 70,000
> Barcelona, Spain - 500,000
> Madrid, Spain - 1 million (2 million according to Indymedia)
> Las Palmas, Spain - 100,000
> Seville, Spain - 250,000
> Cadiz, Spain - 100,000
> Vienna, Austria - 20,000
> Sao Paulo, Brazil - 30,000
> Rio de Janeiro, Brazil - 15,000
> Johannesburg, South Africa - 10,000
> Stockholm, Sweden - 80,000
> Gotenberg, Sweden - 30,000
> Glasgow, Scotland - 50,000
> Mexico City, Mexico - 50,000
> Stuttgart, Germany - 50,000
> Berlin, Germany - 500,000
> Irunea, Spain - 20,000
> Barcelona, Spain - 1 million
> Budapest, Hungary - 20,000
> Warsaw, Poland - 3,000
> Paris, France - 800,000
> Dublin, Ireland - 100,000
> Amsterdam, Netherlands - 100,000
> Athens, Greece - 200,000
> Helsinki, Finalnd - 15,000
> Bern, Switzerland - 40,000
> Copenhagen - 35,000
>



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