From: Michael_E_Jackson-AT-brown.edu
Subject: [offlist] Re: AUT: Italians Blocking Trains ...
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:18:15 -0500


Thanks for saving me again Arianna--I hadn't known about the translated page. 
mj

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> From: Arianna <ari-AT-copernic.fsnet.co.uk>
> Date: 2003/02/24 Mon PM 05:57:10 EST
> To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> Subject: Re: Re: AUT: Italians Blocking Trains Carrying Soldiers and 
>   Military Supplies!
> 
> ciao MJ,,
> 
> you  might already know but theres an english/french link with regular 
> updates here http://italy.indymedia.org/features/multilanguage/#509
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> At 16:55 24/02/2003, you wrote:
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> >This is all fantastic...
> >
> >(donning obnoxious american hat)
> >
> >As these actions unfold, is there a bilingual person on the list with the 
> >time, if not to translate, then to summarize what's being said in the 
> >italian-language links posted here? Or not... sorry even to broach the 
> >subject...
> >
> >beginning to mutter crazily about esperanto,
> >MJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > thanks enda,
> > >
> > > I heard too that train conductors are providing protesters with the
> > > 'reserved' info on where the trains are being 'redirected'. there's also
> > > the likely prospect of strikes, which only the dockers can 'legally' carry
> > > out at this stage.
> > > just to add one thing,  locals from the villages where the stations are
> > > occupied turn up to support the protesters and provide them with food and
> > > drinks.
> > >
> > > for a lengthy personal report from one of the participants:
> > > 
> > https://www.autistici.org/mailman/public/rekombinant/2003-February/002543.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 15:05 24/02/2003, you wrote:
> > > >for those interested, the actions have apparently continued today with the
> > > >halting of two civilian trains on stretches of railroad destined to be 
> > used
> > > >by the war trains:
> > > >
> > > >http://www.repubblica.it/online/politica/noguerraquattro/freno/freno.html
> > > >
> > > >a few interesting aspects of this:
> > > >
> > > >-Saturday's action saw the train blocked not only in Padova, but also
> > > >Verona, Brescia, and Fornovo (roughly 20k from Parma).  Police were also
> > > >forced to clear protestors from its final destination, the station in 
> > Pisa.
> > > >This reveals once again a felicitous use of telecommunications technology
> > > >(mainly cell phones I imagine) in the co-ordination of similar types of
> > > >direct action.
> > > >
> > > >-also, the action brought to light interesting tensions between the
> > > >Disobbedienti (and other groups) and the CGIL.  It was, as Casarini 
> > pointed
> > > >out, rank and file unionists who provided tips on the provenance and
> > > >destination of the train in question.  According to him (is anyone 
> > else from
> > > >the Disobbedienti allowed to speak BTW?), this demonstrated once again the
> > > >extent to which union leadership was out of touch with its base:
> > > >
> > > >http://www.repubblica.it/online/politica/noguerratre/porti/porti.html
> > > >
> > > >However, Cofferati's support for the action (granted he's not heading the
> > > >CGIL any longer) is at the very least interesting.
> > > >
> > > >Does anyone else have any further thoughts on this?
> > > >
> > > >e.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >on 23/2/03 4:15 am, Steve Wright at pmargin-AT-froggy.com.au wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > more photos from a local PRC site in Padova:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://utenti.lycos.it/panerose/pagina_art.php?id_art=1303&loc=1
> > > > >
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