File spoon-archives/aut-op-sy.archive/aut-op-sy_2003/aut-op-sy.0302, message 274


From: "odessa steps" <italia-AT-gryphon33.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: AUT: ParEcon
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 18:52:16 -0000


Ilan, I'd be interested in knowing more about matspen - what's its history
and ideology.....
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From: "Ilan Shalif" <gshalif-AT-netvision.net.il>
To: <aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: AUT: ParEcon


> Hi People
> I am Libertarian communist "only" for the last 35 years.
> When I accessed the internet about 7 years ago I searched for
> like minded people and approaches.
>
> It took me a while to find that I prefer the pro organization
> anarcho-communist trend over the "autonomist" trend - my Israeli
> organization Matspen ("born" at 1962) could be regarded as part of.
>
> In my looking around I encountered the ParEcon and Michael Albert
> and observed this model that seems to be within the anti authoritarian
> anti capitalist spectrum.
>
> It was clear to me from the start that this model is NOT
> compatible with the Libertarian communist model of the
> post capitalist society. At best it is one of few "socialist
> transition programs" that propose a two stage road from
> capitalism to libertarian communism.
>
> It is based on the deep objection for a quick transition of
> society from alienated and individualist capitalism
> to the solidarity of libertarian communism of "from each according
> to ability - to each according to needs.
>
> Ryan Graham wrote:
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > I'm not an autonomist, but I read bits and pieces of the ParEcon website
a while
> > back to see what all the fuss was about.  Perhaps I didn't read enough
of it,
> > but I found it difficult to distinguish the fundamental differences
between it
> > and capitalist wage labour.
> >
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