Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 09:39:00 +0000
Subject: Re: AUT: ParEcon
From: Julian Prior <joolsyp-AT-blueyonder.co.uk>


hi Dave and others,

John Crump wrote a review of Albert & Hahnel's book (+ others by the 
South End Press lot) a while ago. I have a copy but need to check with 
John first that it is ok to post it here.

cheers

Julian

On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 04:08  pm, Dave Graham wrote:

> Dear all
>
>
> I too should very much like to see some work done on ParEcon. I keep 
> going
> back to ZNet and working through the 'primer' that is there. While
> emotionally I am very put off by their description which I find utterly
> dystopian - they have at least tried to outline a scheme.
>
> It's not hard to get involved in discussions about how 'things might 
> work'
> - most folk I work with know there's loads of ways society could be
> reorganised for the better but we have no way of systematising this and
> refining it.
>
> And too often it seems to me we allow ourselves to be put off by the 
> Old
> Man's warning about utopian schemes - but the point is we should now be
> able to point to developments in the economy that will make more 
> precise
> what could not be foreseen in the 19th century. That is we could become
> less utopian - is it possible for instance to envisage the 'end of 
> value'
> with the ability to electronically reproduce stuff virtually for 
> 'free' for
> instance?
>
> We could at least try and formulate a few principles and as I recall we
> very nearly got well into it some months /years back when we chewed 
> over
> what was meant by that famous passage in the 'Critique of the Gotha
> Programme' [I recall Harald saying that it was Marx at his most
> Proudhonist!] Well if Marx was wrong what's the harm in saying so?
>
> All this stuff should be on the Archive for those who have only joined 
> the
> list lately.
>
> Is it worth revisiting?
>
> Gra
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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