From: "odessa steps" <italia-AT-gryphon33.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: AUT: ParEcon
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 19:24:44 -0000


checking if its all right to post something here.....  can we trust someone
who regards the product of their mind as a property they control to talk
intelligently about anarcho-communist economics and social relations?  I
presume you were just kidding, right?  Or is this another example of the
american tendency to egoism and over-intellectualism?
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From: "Julian Prior" <joolsyp-AT-blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: AUT: ParEcon


> hi Dave and others,
>
> John Crump wrote a review of Albert & Hahnel's book (+ others by the
> South End Press lot) a while ago. I have a copy but need to check with
> John first that it is ok to post it here.
>
> cheers
>
> Julian
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 04:08  pm, Dave Graham wrote:
>
> > Dear all
> >
> >
> > I too should very much like to see some work done on ParEcon. I keep
> > going
> > back to ZNet and working through the 'primer' that is there. While
> > emotionally I am very put off by their description which I find utterly
> > dystopian - they have at least tried to outline a scheme.
> >
> > It's not hard to get involved in discussions about how 'things might
> > work'
> > - most folk I work with know there's loads of ways society could be
> > reorganised for the better but we have no way of systematising this and
> > refining it.
> >
> > And too often it seems to me we allow ourselves to be put off by the
> > Old
> > Man's warning about utopian schemes - but the point is we should now be
> > able to point to developments in the economy that will make more
> > precise
> > what could not be foreseen in the 19th century. That is we could become
> > less utopian - is it possible for instance to envisage the 'end of
> > value'
> > with the ability to electronically reproduce stuff virtually for
> > 'free' for
> > instance?
> >
> > We could at least try and formulate a few principles and as I recall we
> > very nearly got well into it some months /years back when we chewed
> > over
> > what was meant by that famous passage in the 'Critique of the Gotha
> > Programme' [I recall Harald saying that it was Marx at his most
> > Proudhonist!] Well if Marx was wrong what's the harm in saying so?
> >
> > All this stuff should be on the Archive for those who have only joined
> > the
> > list lately.
> >
> > Is it worth revisiting?
> >
> > Gra
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dave Graham
> > <davgraham-AT-merseymail.com>
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