Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:58:31 -0800
Subject: Re: AUT: Research towards an anti-militarist project
From: Tom Messmer <messmer-AT-endpage.com>



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Lemme know what I can do, I'm all for it. I'd do research or layout or=20
whatever.
Tom

On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, at 07:05  PM, chris wright wrote:

> Hey all,
> =A0
> I was wondering if anyone was interested in taking up a project.
> =A0
> I wanted to follow through on some of the issues we have been raising=20
> here around the way to respond to the war and I would like to propose=20
> some shared information gathering.
> =A0
> Basically, I wanted to put together some information that we could use=20
> collectively in a way that made sense and would make it easier to do=20
> things like produce leaflets.
> =A0
> For example, I want to do a flyer laying out the details of the
> connection between the Bush administration, al Qaida/Osama bin Laden,=20
> and energy corporations.=A0 This would include stuff like Bush issuing=20
> an order to the Secret Service to immediately fly all members of the=20
> bin Laden family in the US out of the US on 9/11/01, the bin Laden
> family putting up the money for Dubya's first oil business, the
> funding of the Mujahedeen and Osama bin Laden by the US, the offer by=20
> bin Laden to 'whack' Hussein in 1990, etc.=A0 I would like to list all=20
> of this with citations, preferably from newspapers (which have carried=20
> most of this information, esp. the Washington Post, but also the
> London Financial Times, news and business magazines, etc.)=A0 While most
> people will not look up the citations, it lends credibility to the
> information and limits the ability to say that we have no real proof.
> =A0
> I would also like material showing the actual bills/laws
> passed/enacted/retracted in different countries and their effects on=20
> things such as bankruptcy laws (and the levels of=A0household credit=20
> expansion since 1975), unemployment benefits, welfare, medical care,=20
> civil rights, etc.=A0 I think it would be useful to lay out the
> progressive deterioration of these aspects of social life in a careful=20
> manner, again with citations, and based on legislation passed and
> actual factual deterioration from official sources.
> =A0
> This is material beyond one person, but the purpose is simple: amass a=20
> collective pool of credible information from which we can contradict=20
> the terms on which the war drive is happening.=A0 The material is out=20
> there and we each have resources and access to resources, but in an
> isolated manner.
> =A0
> We can then begin to discuss in concrete terms the possible impact of=20
> this war, dissect the rationale of this war (with Harald's correct
> proviso that the representatives of capital are neither a monolith of=20
> one opinion, nor entirely rational; in fact, the abscence of internal=20
> unity and coherence in policy is actually the source of much
> 'irrationalism', ie the contradictions of the capital-labor relation=20
> manifes themselves in mutually contradictory policies, needs, etc.)
> and put forward some contra-factual information without recourse to
> any jargon or pedantic nonsense.
> =A0
> I would like to hash out who would and could do what and use aut-op-sy=20
> as a forum for that process as a practical engagement through a
> collective medium.
> =A0
> Anyone interested?
> =A0
> Cheers,
> Chris
> =A0
> Go where you may, search where you will, roam through all the
> monarchies and despotisms of the old world, travel through South
> America, search out every abuse, and when you have found the last, lay=20
> your facts by the side of the everyday practices of this nation, and=20
> you will say with me, that, for revolting barbarity and shameless
> hypocrisy, America reigns without a rival.=A0 -- Frederick Douglass

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Lemme know what I can do, I'm all for it. I'd do research or layout or
whatever.

Tom


On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, at 07:05  PM, chris wright wrote:


<excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>Hey all,</smaller></fontfamily>

=A0

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>I was wondering if anyone was
interested in taking up a project.</smaller></fontfamily>

=A0

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>I wanted to follow through on
some of the issues we have been raising here around the way to respond
to the war and I would like to propose some shared information
gathering.</smaller></fontfamily>

=A0

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>Basically, I wanted to put
together some information that we could use collectively in a way that
made sense and would make it easier to do things like produce leaflets.</smaller></fontfamily>

=A0

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>For example, I want to do a
flyer laying out the details of the connection between the Bush
administration, al Qaida/Osama bin Laden, and energy corporations.=A0
This would include stuff like Bush issuing an order to the Secret
Service to immediately fly all members of the bin Laden family in the
US out of the US on 9/11/01, the bin Laden family putting up the money
for Dubya's first oil business, the funding of the Mujahedeen and
Osama bin Laden by the US, the offer by bin Laden to 'whack' Hussein
in 1990, etc.=A0 I would like to list all of this with citations,
preferably from newspapers (which have carried most of this
information, esp. the Washington Post, but also the London Financial
Times, news and business magazines, etc.)=A0 While most people will not
look up the citations, it lends credibility to the information and
limits the ability to say that we have no real proof.</smaller></fontfamily>

=A0

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>I would also like material
showing the actual bills/laws passed/enacted/retracted in different
countries and their effects on things such as bankruptcy laws (and the
levels of=A0household credit expansion since 1975), unemployment
benefits, welfare, medical care, civil rights, etc.=A0 I think it would
be useful to lay out the progressive deterioration of these aspects of
social life in a careful manner, again with citations, and based on
legislation passed and actual factual deterioration from official
sources.</smaller></fontfamily>

=A0

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>This is material beyond one
person, but the purpose is simple: amass a collective pool of credible
information from which we can contradict the terms on which the war
drive is happening.=A0 The material is out there and we each have
resources and access to resources, but in an isolated manner.</smaller></fontfamily>

=A0

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>We can then begin to discuss
in concrete terms the possible impact of this war, dissect the
rationale of this war (with Harald's correct proviso that the
representatives of capital are neither a monolith of one opinion, nor
entirely rational; in fact, the abscence of internal unity and
coherence in policy is actually the source of much 'irrationalism', ie
the contradictions of the capital-labor relation manifes themselves in
mutually contradictory policies, needs, etc.) and put forward some
contra-factual information without recourse to any jargon or pedantic
nonsense.</smaller></fontfamily>

=A0

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>I would like to hash out who
would and could do what and use aut-op-sy as a forum for that process
as a practical engagement through a collective medium.</smaller></fontfamily>

=A0

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>Anyone interested?</smaller></fontfamily>

=A0

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>Cheers,</smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>Chris</smaller></fontfamily>

=A0

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>Go where you may, search
where you will, roam through all the monarchies and despotisms of the
old world, travel through South America, search out every abuse, and
when you have found the last, lay your facts by the side of the
everyday practices of this nation, and you will say with me, that, for
revolting barbarity and shameless hypocrisy, America reigns without a
rival.=A0 -- Frederick Douglass</smaller></fontfamily>

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