From: "odessa steps" <italia-AT-gryphon33.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: AUT: Re: Remove Scott from this list!
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 19:54:49 -0000


Good for you, Harald.  I totally agree.  Its time to make a stand.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harald Beyer-Arnesen" <haraldba-AT-online.no>
To: <aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:01 PM
Subject: AUT: Remove Scott from this list!


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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Scott Hamilton" <s_h_hamilton-AT-yahoo.com>
> To: <aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
> Sent: 12. februar 2003 13.33
> Subject: AUT: IWW, WW1, WoT
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> Remove Scott from this list!
> Communists/anarchist have nothing in common with Stalinist!
> 
> To Scott's particular Stalinist blend of pro-capitalist,
> pro-fascist policies and systematic dishonesty.
> 
> "Nowhere do they talk about the workers of the Third
> World and especially Iraq overthrowing the likes of Saddam
> on their own (albeit initially in a military bloc to
> repel invasion with the anti-imperialist parts of
> their own bourgeoisie). They don't call for the
> defence of Iraq, though that was probably too much to
> ask. "
> 
> "In the meantime, demanding that Third World states get
> rid of their tiny stockpiles for self-defence is reactionary
> in the extreme."
> 
> "Does the IWW know about the thwarted workers revolution
> in Iraq in 1991?"
> 
> As Scott well know, whatever the faults of IWW, they do
> support a general strike against war, workers uprising in
> Iraq and elsewhere, even if not mentioned in each and
> every resolution.  Of course in Scott's absurd world
> all that counts are the sectarian paper wars of die-hard
> advocates of state capitalism..
> 
> As is clear from the above and everybody  who have
> followed Scotts consistent advocacy of class 
> collaboration -- including with Nazis -- on this list, Scott
> supports workers serving as cannon fodder in capitalist
> wars, so as to defend "their" capitalist regimes. The Iraqi
> workers in 1991 were not as stupid to follow Scott's
> absurd advice to defend capitalism and their butchers
> in the Bath regime. They deserted and turned their
> weapons the other way as soon as they got a change.
> 
> The refer to "anti-imperialist parts of their own bourgeoisie"
> in regards to imperialist Bathist Iraq is even more absurd
> than usual, but not surprising coming from a Stalinist position.
> (That he calls it Trotskyism does not change the substance.)
> 
> What Scott is doing on list supposed to promote
> working class self-emancipation -- and not state
> capitalism and Stalinist policies -- is beyond me.
> 
> If Scott is not removed from this list I will remove
> myself. I will no longer be part of giving his particular
> form of antihuman and anti-working class policies
> legitimacy.
>         He is *consciously,* *systematically* and
> *manipulatively* changing the whole character of this list
> following an old and tried Stalinist tradition.
>         Somewhere a line has to be drawn!
>         Communists/anarchists have nothing in common with Stalinist!
> 
> Harald
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