Subject: Re: AUT: Remove Scott from this list!
From: "Dave Graham" <davgraham-AT-merseymail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:08:44 +0000


Dear Harald [and everyone else]

A long time ago Ben Seattle made a very interesting argument about how a
new movement would clarify its ideas - using cyberspace. One of his
proposals was what he called a 'bozo filter' - people posting stuff that
most others disagreed with would after a while simply find their posts
ignored so that their social 'space' would become much reduced.

If I recall correctly [and Ben may still be lurking on this list so he can
explain it better] he thought/argued that this was a necessary evil, part
of the process of self-clarification that any movement must do to shake of
'the muck of ages' and renew itself.

At the moment there is too much noise in the signal to noise ratio - but I
feel we cannot turn off the transmitter in the way you suggest.

As a matter of interest how many people on the list are using the delete
button as the 'bozo filter'?

I normally find myself in agreement with you Harald [and I say that never
having thought of myself as an anarchist nor an anarcho syndicalist] but
not this time - is it possible that Scott has simply tried your patience
too much and goaded you into this latest response?

Gra

 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Nate Holdren" <nateholdren-AT-hotmail.com>
> To: <haraldba-AT-online.no>
> Sent: 12. februar 2003 16.52
> Subject: Re: AUT: Remove Scott from this list!
> 
> 
> 
> To Nate, Laura Thomas and all
> 
> The delete button functions for an occasionally post.
> But at this stage about half of the posts to this list
> comes from Scott. Had Scott showed any respect
> for the intention of this list at all, and even at all been
> interested in having real discussions, I might have
> seen it differently, but what he does is to
> effectively sabotage this space.  Quanity is not un-
> important.
>         I do not know how Steve Wright and others that
> put up this list view it, but at least I see it as attack on
> our freedom. There is no other list I know of quite like
> this one I know of, at least not for those of us who are
> pretty ignorant when it comes to reading and writing
> in Italian.   And it is not like there where no other
> places Scott can post his sermons for those interested
> in "discussing" with him.
> 
> Harald
> 
> PS. As for IWW and World War I, it is a bit more complex
> story and context -- real life often is, and IWW never 
> was perfect. But I see no use in discussinf this at all in
> such absurd terms as some claimed Stalinist and 
> Kautskyist IWW policies.
>         But part of the story is also this, the view of an editorial
> Tulsa "World," an organ of the oil companies:"
> 
>         "The first step in the whipping of Germany is to
>         strangle the IWW's. Kill them, just as you would kill any
>         other kind of snake: Don't scotch 'em, kill 'em dead.
>          It is not time to waste money on trials and continuance
>         and things like that. All that is necessary is the
>         evidence of the firing squad."
> 
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