Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 21:27:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Thomas Seay <entheogens-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: AUT: demo in Chicago


--- Nate Holdren <nateholdren-AT-hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Thomas-
> The latest word is that between 10,000 and 15,000
> people were at the demo 
> yesterday, 800 or 900 or more taken into police
> custody with about half 
> released without charges

Nate, I was really surprized and pleased at the
response in Chicago.  I got interviewed by Italian
Global Radio (which is following closely anti-war
events here) this morning and mentioned that I thought
that such a response was signifcant, seeing as it was
in the Midwest (hope midwesterners dont take that as a
slight!).

The march really did get
> away from the control of 
> both cops and the rally organizers, at a number of
> points. 

Good, 'cause I know that Answer/WWP would love to get
this thing under (their) control.  Tomorrow there is
going to be a rally and march...if Answer tries to
take control and offer their usual menu of boring,
repetitive, patronizing speakers, I suggest (if
someone will help) that we take the stage and turn the
event into a discussion of tactics.  Who's with me?

I respect comrades willingness
> to go to jail and such, 
> but it wasn't my kind of thing. 

I am willing to go to jail, but I want to choose my
battles.  Seems like we should only try to put it on
the line when necessary to close something down.  And
then we need to do it with the minimum number of
people.  How can we close down a place, not get
arrested?  Somebody want to answer that million dollar
question?

> (all of these last are very silly I think, other
> than as tactical decisions) 
> and the worst was some statement about 'being
> responsible for our actions'.
> I'm going to work on a leaflet about this, as I feel
> this demonstrates a 
> great loyalty to the state under the talk of
> disobeying.

I think a leaflet is a good idea, but these people
sound (am I wrong) naive and dont need to be harshly
criticized or jeered at.  Perhaps initiating a
discussion would be better (just sticking my nose into
something I know nothing of..sorry, disregard if not
pertinent).  What do you think? 

> 
> I'd also quite like to hear more about San Francisco
> - the 'no demo' turning 
> into a multiplicity of demos is very exciting, we

I was not on the streets today...I will give a report
back from tomorrow's activities.  I hope the
multiplexed network model continues tomorrow.

Here the 
> police presence alone has been a massive disruption
> of life in the center of 
> the city, if we could find a way to turn that
> against itself it could be 
> interesting. (Of course, I'm always all for bikes as
> Sean suggests.)

What are some good bike tactics?

Thomas

====<<Be like me!  The Primal Mother, eternally creative, eternally impelling into life,
    eternally drawing satisfaction from the ceaseless flux of phenomena.>>
    -Nietzsche, "The Birth of Tragedy"

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