Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 22:02:42 -0800 (PST) From: Thomas Seay <entheogens-AT-yahoo.com> Subject: Re: AUT: How the Reformists attempt to liquidate the anti-war movement Ben Seattle Wrote: <<One well-known antiwar activist, Chuck0, summed it up well: If we conducted our activism in a way that pleased the most vociferous anti-activism people, we would be reduced to writing letters to politicians and voting.>> What is this trend of the Leninists trying to suck up to anarchists? Last week I saw what I thought was a Black Bloc and then found out it was RCPs youth contingent. << Nor do I make a fetish out of blocking traffic. I have helped to organize unpermitted marches in the street--but that is not necessarily the same thing as focusing on disrupting people who are driving to work.>> Yes, that is what we have been trying to do here in San Francisco...bother drivers. Where did you get that line? If you dont know what people are trying to do by shutting down streets, then shut the fuck up. <<But aside from individual actions we also must give thought to longer term matters. Sooner or later a section of serious activists will recognize that there are only two fundamental paths forward: (1) becoming election fodder (2) creating a revolutionary mass movement that is directed at eliminating thesystem of bourgeois rule >> Let's translate that second one: you mean, build THE revolutionary party, dont you? <<I support the call made by Chuck0 for an antiwar organization that isn't interested in cutting deals with the liberals.>> Since Chuck0 apparently isnt on this list anymore, I will respond by saying that I doubt he is interested in building AN antiwar organization. He supports the network model of revolt, hence many organizations. <<But I hope that if such an organization comes into existence--it will be focused on more than blocking traffic or on actions aimed at attention from the bourgeois press.>> Your leninist pals in the Workers World Party may be interested in getting attention from the bourgeois press...that is not the aim of the folks who have been shutting things down in San Francisco. <<The masses in this country are being bombarded by the corporate media with waves of stupid jingo nonsense and will have an interest>> Yes, Ben, they are. You are only disappointed that they cant be bombarded by stupid leninist jingo nonsense. <<We must build our own press, both on the streets (in the forms of leaflets which give ordinary people an understanding in _depth_>> "Ordinary people" ie those who have been deprived of the insights of such luminaries as Gloria La Riva, the Becker Brothers and Bob Avakian. <We must create an organization that is politically transparent (ie: political differences within the organization must be public) democratic and accountable for its actions.>> Welcome to the world of "mass line"...a leninist marketing technique that is not unlike "pacing" in Neurolinguistic Programming. That is what Ben Seattle's "outreach program" is all about...getting errant lambs back into the leninist fold. Take your outreach program and stick it up your ass. -Thomas Seay ====<<Be like me! The Primal Mother, eternally creative, eternally impelling into life, eternally drawing satisfaction from the ceaseless flux of phenomena.>> -Nietzsche, "The Birth of Tragedy" __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com --- from list aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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