Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 11:23:33 -0800
From: Tom Messmer <messmer-AT-endpage.com>
Subject: Re: AUT: AGAINST CONSERVATISM--FOR COMMUNISM


Actually, I thought it was an April fools joke when I replied before, 
now amazingly, it seems you actually meant that stuff so since Chris 
responded to the homophobia piece, I'll tackle some more. I think that 
the entire piece is histrionic and puritanical and belies a revoltingly 
elitist and totalitarian mindset, sectioning off a blue collar 
straight(in the sense of both "square" and hetero) culture and 
idealizing it as the prime revolutionary actors. This is so retrograde 
and creepy its worthy of any loony Maoist sect anywhere. I thought that 
the point of this list was to move beyond this sort of mentality on one 
hand and dropout counterculturism on the other. Hey, are you sure you 
weren't putting us on Floyce?



On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 22:11:07 -0800 (PST), Floyce White wrote:
> OK, Peter, Tom, Nate.  Forget the rest of the article
> that puts my remarks in context--forget the 9400 words
> of body text in this series--and discuss one single
> word.  Fine.  Let's discuss one word.
> 
> What are the various pro-capitalist positions on
> homosexuality?  What is the take of liberal gay-rights
> groups?  How are these positions opportunistically and
> uncritically repeated by socialists?  And while we're
> at it, we can discuss the role of liberal political
> correctness (conformity) that suppresses any other
> take on the issue--especially anything that poses
> workers' revolution as the solution to stigmatization
> and scapegoating.
> 
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