From: "Shatter Break" <shatterbreakseance-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: AUT: Is A New Magna Carta Kautskyist? (was Negri goes mad}
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:10:30 -0700


It's a shame to see people either totally rejecting or 'devils advocate' 
accepting this new Negri piece.  If you ask me, he and Hardt have realized 
their representative political power as left theorists in the age of 
capital's globalization.  Instead of pretending to be leaders of a 
proletarian, revolutionary movement and be charlatans to such a praxis, 
they've cut their losses and are lobbying the 'aristocracies' with a 
position that has basically nothing to do with what they've spent their 
whole life fighting for and theorizing about.  I see it as a tactical shift 
to employ leverage and cut ties now that they've accumulated too much weight 
in certain circles.

-Sk!



>From: Thomas Seay <entheogens-AT-yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU
>To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU
>Subject: RE: AUT: Is A New Magna Carta Kautskyist? (was Negri goes mad}
>Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:52:25 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>--- r s <kevlarsf-AT-hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Negri, instead of offering a revolutionary
> > solution (taking
> > advantage of the weaknesses of capitalism to
> > overthrow it), is pushing a
> > reformist and pro-capitalist agenda,
>
>Who does have a viable revolutionary solution right
>now?  Isn't this article a reflection of a feeling of
>impotence vis a' vis the crisis?
>
> > it won't change
> > anything and it certainly won't end imperialist war.
>
>Will it or wont it end war, or at least this war?
>Does the transnational bourgeoisie desire war as a
>means of dealing with the crisis or does it prefer
>"peace"?  Some conservatives in the US have come out
>against this war, seeing it as more disruptive than
>helpful.  Certainly the West needs oil.. addicted to
>it like junkies, but I would say that there is a
>division in the bourgeoisie as to how best to proceed.
>So, I definitely agree with you that H & N fail to
>offer a revolutionary solution, but given the lack of
>a revolutionary solution is the one, "Empire" by
>aristocracy better than the other Empire my monarchy?
>If so, how is it better or, if not, why is it
>inconsequential?
>Just a question that I am asking...I'd like to hear
>bromide free answers.
>
>-Thomas
>
>
>
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