Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 18:16:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: andrew robinson <ldxar1-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: AUT: Hooliganism and class composition


OK I'm paraphrasing a bit (I was quoting from memory), but that's more-or-less what he says:
 
'What worried the bourgeoisie was the kind of amiable, tolerated illegality that was known in the eighteenth century... [O]nce capitalism had entrusted wealth... to popular hands, it became absolutely essential to protect that wealth.  Because industrial society requires that wealth be directly in the hands, not of its owners, but of those whose labour, by putting that wealth to work, enabled a profit to be made from it...' and elsewhere: 'one only needs to see the workers' fear and hatred of criminals... to understand that the criminals were being used against them' ("Prison Talk", in Power/Knowledge, pp. 40-1).
 
The exact terms Foucault uses to discuss class (as and when he does discuss it) vary a lot from place to place, though - I remember another long passage where he repeatedly talks about the "proletariat" (used to mean people who work) and the "non-proletarianised poor" (referring to those who refuse to work in an industrial economy, peasants, bandits, etc.), and attempts to divide them from each other (in the first essay in this collection, "On Popular Justice").  He uses a different terminology again in "Discipline and Punish".  I get the feeling that he's more interested in the idea of divide-and-rule than in formulating a specific terminology of class.

Thiago Oppermann <thiago_oppermann-AT-bigpond.com> wrote:
On 17/4/2004 9:13 PM, "Anthony iles" wrote:

> While you're at it, it might be worth checking out Foucault's thesis on
> delinquency if you haven't done so already - his basic line is that the
> ruling class invents the category of delinquency to divide and rule the
> working class,

Where does Foucault use these terms?

Thiago



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