From: ".: s0metim3s :." <s0metim3s-AT-optusnet.com.au> Subject: RE: AUT: More on Fascism Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:35:31 +1000 Hey Nate, : rights - certainly rights are only : interesting from a strategic : perspective, but can you say briefly why you : think that rights are exhausted for : strategic purposes? Crudely, I think codified rights are a means to bring something into the field of politics and law which threatens to overtake them; a means of managing a particular strategic encounters. The granting of rights by the state is a recognition of force, a use of force. So, yes, I'd agree with you that it's always foremost a strategic question. The area I'm most interested in is border policing. It's the area in which rights claims are particularly ubiquitous, the area in which rights claims are posited as 'human rights' and, here's the rub, the area in which the whole notion and ground of 'human rights' comes completely undone. The problem was always there: human rights were always the rights of citizens because the sphere of determination of rights was/is the nation-state. The historical exhaustion of this as a discourse, let alone a strategy, arises because nation-states are, since WWII, the global form of political organisation, and what comes into play isn't human rights but the ability of nation-states to distinguish between citizens and non-citizens, the granting *and denial* of rights. There's a whole other parallel discussion about the relationship between citizenship and commodification, as well as a discussion about the ways in which the persistence of human rights claims invokes a global state; and the relation between the two; but maybe I can gesture at that in this way: It's funny that you should mention the stuff about codifying working time. I'm in the middle of writing something about Habeas Corpus (actually, what will be a second article on that topic); and I was keen to quote this: "In the place of the pompus catalogue of the 'inalienable rights of man' there steps the modest Magna Carta of the legally limited working day, which at least makes clear 'when the time which the worker sells is ended, and when his own begins' (Marx 1867: 416 Capital, ch 10)." I think there's an interesting connection to be made between the suspension of Habeas Corpus (in the camps on Nauru and Guantanamo Bay) and the traversals of worktime (and dis-embodiments) that occur in so-called immaterial work. Angela _______________ <end message> --- from list aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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