File spoon-archives/aut-op-sy.archive/aut-op-sy_2004/aut-op-sy.0408, message 101


Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:19:47 +1000
From: Steve Wright <pmargin-AT-optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: AUT: Marazzi's La Place des Chaussettes


But even if *the form* of traditional leninism is said to be longer
applicable, isn't there still a sense of a specialised organisation that
must *force* a break with capital? That's how I understood Negri's
recent essay 'What is to be done with "What is to be done"?'

Steve

".: s0metim3s :." wrote:

> Nate:
>
> ...
> : something to the effect that 'perhaps
> : the hierarchical nature of the
> : Bolshevik organization is why the
> : Bolshevik's ended up recreating the
> : state', which from what I've been told
> : is a fairly critical thing for
> : Negri to say about Lenin etc. (Of
> : course nowhere near critical enough
> : for my own sectarian tastes...)
>
> Nor mine.  Negri's 'crit' of Lenin doesn't seem to
> much further than 'Leninism was an adequate form
> of organisation then, but not now.'  I'd be
> interested if anyone knows of anything more
> substantial (ie., actually critical) than this.
>
> I do have a specific question Nate.  Do they still
> talk about global citizenship and the basic
> income?  If so, is it a repeat of the way they
> talk about them in _Empire_?
>
> Angela
> _______________
>
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