Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 08:32:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Thomas Seay <entheogens-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: AUT: Paolo Virno's "A Grammar of the Multitude"


Yes, we have decided to resuscitate the
generation-online list.  There will soon be 
an announcement to autopsy about the new reading
group.

Details as to how to subscribe will be included at
that time.

Thomas
--- "Nicholas J. Kiersey" <nkiersey-AT-vt.edu> wrote:

> I thought generation online had broken up after a
> riotous carnival of 
> mudslinging between 'serious' scholars! Could it be
> that this wonderful 
> email listserv that I really enjoyed is still in
> action? If you have 
> any details, I'd be grateful. And grateful, too, for
> information on the 
> reading group for this book.
> Sincerely,
> NiK
> 
> On Aug 1, 2004, at 18:48, Thomas Seay wrote:
> 
> > Rumor has it that there will SOON be a
> > generation_online study group formed around the
> > reading of this very book.  Rumor is that there
> will
> > be a scanned version of the book in circulation.
> >
> > Stand by for more rumors on this scintillating
> topic.
> >
> > -Thomas
> > --- Peter van Heusden <pvh-AT-wfeet.za.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Jim Fleming wrote:
> >>
> >>> sorry, not an e-copy, but book is available
> here:
> >>
> >>> http://bookstore.autonomedia.org/index.cgi?
> >> cart_id=3633919.30859&pid=389
> >>>
> >> i just finished reading grammar of the multitude
> >> after buying it in the
> >> uk last week. i never released the book was so
> >> short! "somebody" should
> >> scan it in! also, does anyone know where to get
> hold
> >> of the semiotext(e)
> >> issue on autonomia that is mentioned in the back
> of
> >> "grammar"?
> >>
> >> peter
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
> > ====> > The real world gives the subset of what is; the
> product space 
> > represents the uncertainty of the observer.  The
> product space may 
> > therefore change if the observer changes; and two
> observers may 
> > legitimately use different product spaces within
> which to record the 
> > same subset of actual events in some actual thing.
> The "constraint" is 
> > thus a relation between observer and thing; the
> properties of any 
> > particular constraint will depend on both the real
> thing and on the 
> > observer.  It follows that a substantial part of
> the theory of 
> > organization will be concerned with properties
> that are not intrinsice 
> > to the thing but are relational between observer
> and thing.
> >
> > W. Ross Ashby
> >
> >
> > 		
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> 
> Nicholas J. Kiersey
> PhD Student, Environmental Design & Planning
> VPI&SU
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====The real world gives the subset of what is; the product space represents the uncertainty of the observer.  The product space may therefore change if the observer changes; and two observers may legitimately use different product spaces within which to record the same subset of actual events in some actual thing. The "constraint" is thus a relation between observer and thing; the properties of any particular constraint will depend on both the real thing and on the observer.  It follows that a substantial part of the theory of organization will be concerned with properties that are not intrinsice to the thing but are relational between observer and thing.

W. Ross Ashby


	
		
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