From: Tom Messmer <messmer-AT-endpage.com>
Subject: Re: AUT: Fwd: [VT_THEORY] on empire and negri
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:26:39 -0700


<orwellian rant>
I don't like using the word fascism that way at all, if one means 
"authoritarianism", one oughta say so: Fascism is a specific form of 
authoritarianism, imho, one among too many.   Foucault's analysis of 
fascism is a nonanalysis of fascism.
</orwellian rant>

On Aug 26, 2004, at 8:18 AM, Nicholas J. Kiersey wrote:

> Hi Nate et al.
>
> I have not read Balibar and only a little Virno and Agamben so far. 
> However, to me, one of the most profound statements on postmodern 
> fascism is Foucault's introduction to Anti Oedipus. In fact, the very 
> purpose of the adoption of a genealogical stance was driven by his 
> desire to overcome something that i understand to map onto this idea 
> of postmodern fascism. For Foucault, fascism had not received the 
> analytical attention it deserved -- as he notes: “The nonanalysis of 
> fascism is one of the most important political facts of the last 
> thirty years”. Foucault used the term fascism to refer to a sort of 
> petty fascism, a fascism of everyday life: “the fascism in us all, in 
> our heads and in our everyday behavior, the fascism that causes us to 
> love power, to desire the very thing that dominates and exploits us” 
> (xiii). I like this idea a lot. In fact, I would say it is this 
> potential for microfascism in all of us which is perhaps the basis for 
> a definition of the multitude in the first place.
>
> NiK
>
> On Aug 24, 2004, at 20:53, Nate Holdren wrote:
>
>> Virno talks about the multitude as an ambivalent form, just like the
>> proletariat, and talks about 'postmodern fascism' as being a form the
>> multitude can take in addition to the radical forms Negri identifies.
>> I know Virno and Agamben and others worked on a journal called Luogo
>> Comune (sp?) dedicated, among other things, to exploring postmodern
>> fascism. Bits of the journal are around the net in Spanish, probably
>> in Italian as well. I think points about fascism can be overstated but
>> I think the idea might be helpful for understanding the religious
>> right and fascists in our country, and maybe the Lega Nord in Italy
>> etc.
>>
>
> Nicholas J. Kiersey
> PhD Student, Environmental Design & Planning
> VPI&SU
> email: nkiersey-AT-vt.edu
> home: nicholaskiersey-AT-mac.com
> mobile phone: (540) 998-1218
> AIM: NervousFishdown
>
>
>
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