Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:16:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: mj <mjlistservs-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: AUT: Fwd: [VT_THEORY] on empire and negri





"> > Yeah, and I think there might have been some anarchists in Russia at the
> > time too... they helped out with the revolution or something..."

"touche. In terms of the relationship between the organisation and work and class
forms, did anarchists organising in Russian workplaces develop craft-based,
industrial-based or territorial-based forms of organisation?"

I don't really know--my eyes kind of glaze over when my comrades start talking about Makhnov and so on. My impression, though, is that it was largely territorial-based, or at least the two examples I mentioned (the Ukrainian-based movement and the later Kronstadt rebellion). I'd have to dig deeper to find out what organizational forms were advocated by anarchist "industrial proletarians" in urban Russia. Deeper than I can manage at work, looking over my shoulder every 20 seconds, and deeper than I'll be able to manage in NYC this coming week...

What's interesting, of course, is that to seize the state, the bolsheviks focused on the "core" in a highly, er, unevenly developed productive economy. Was it Jason Adams' "Nonwestern Anarchisms" essay that pointed out that, even within the early European workers' movements, anarchism tended to thrive more in "semi-peripheral regions" like Spain and Italy?

 Or some
combination? And what was their take on the existing 'technical' division of
labour? - eg was it seen as rational but deformed by capitalist 'parasites'? Or
did it need to be completely overturned? 

And: what was their take on the existing geographical division of labor? Did anybody back then have any kind of analysis of how the production of space figures into the relations of production?

I do see why you were making the IWW comparison though. Political composition *relative to* technical composition. ok.

MJ

		
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