From: ".: s0metim3s :." <s0metim3s-AT-optusnet.com.au>
Subject: RE: AUT: Bologna on postfordism
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 12:59:53 +1000


Hey Nate,

I've been poring over it with a fine comb (and
with thanks to David).  Yeah, I liked it a lot
too.  Because of that intersection between
operaismo and pomoista, but also because of the (I
guess one could call it) 'althusserian' reading
strategy, which I've a particular penchant for.

On Bologna and Foucault, if I recall right, in an
interview with Patrick Cunningham, Bologna
mentions something along the lines of 'we read
Foucault more than Marx.'  I'm not sure who 'we'
is in that context; but I don't doubt it.  Aside
from Bologna's analyses of forms of identity, the
critique of visibility and mediation, he does this
other very foucauldian thing: rather than
construct a theory, he puts it into practice.

Angela
_______________


: Hello Angela, Lowe-
:
: Have you had a chance to look Jason
: Read's book the Micropolitics of
: Capital? It's quite good, makes
: interesting claims about the
: production of subjectivity in relation
: to capitalism in its various
: instantiations, and is great on
: readings of operaismo and French
: post-whatever stuff.
:
: As Marx says someplace, one of the
: principal products of work under
: capitalism is the capital-labor
: relationship. The production of
: subjectivity seems to falls cleanly
: under that heading (for those of
: us possessed of the need to fit
: everything we read into the slots of
: Marx[ism]). Given that Bologna's work
: (at least the stuff in English,
: all I've read) is analysis and history
: of various formations of a
: class subject, it makes a lot of sense
: that Bologna and other
: operaisti would dovetail so closely
: with Foucault...
:
:
:
: On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 06:13:07 -0400,
: Lowe Laclau <lowelaclau-AT-hotmail.com> wrote:
: >
: >
: > Angela,
: >
: > That article by Mark Coté on the
: Italian Foucaults tries to establish
: links as well. But from what I remember
: Bologna states that never read him or
: at least not seriously. Unlike Negri or
: Bifo. But if as Deleuze says there is
: such an affinity between the works of
: Tronti and Foucault then perhaps
: whatever resemblances there are may
: come from Bologna's association with
: Tronti or with whatever Tronti and
: other brought to the Operaia and
: Autonomia movements. And I think even
: dispite Bologna's statement suggesting
: the contrary it must have been very
: difficult NOT to know of Foucaults work
: and its general themes at least. His
: fame extended far beyond France.
: >
: > Lowe
: >
: >
: >
: > >
: >
: > >Reminds me of Foucault (the citation
: of Bologna's
: >
: > >about visibility, constitution and mediation
: >
: > >posted here recently has definite foucauldian
: >
: > >preoccupations); but I've no idea
: what Bologna's
: >
: > >take on Foucault might be.  And I'm
: hardly the
: >
: > >first to draw the parallels.
: >
: >
>http://slash.interactivist.net/analysis/03/09/16/
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>
> >035213.shtml
>
> >
>
> >Angela
>
> >
>
> >Lowe:
>
> >: Reminds me a great deal of
>
> >: latter-day Guattari. An emphasis on the
>
> >: creation of dispositifs as opposed to
>
> >: the scientifization (sorry... making up
>
> >: words again) of the class antagonisms.
>




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