Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 13:22:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Thomas Seay <entheogens-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: AUT: Hostile review of Fahrenheit 9/11 from Wildcat (US/UK)



--- Tom Messmer <messmer-AT-endpage.com> wrote:

> Thomas, I sense that you are trying to express
> something, would you 
> mind being a little less subtle, I'm not sure if its
> coming through..

Sorry about that. I'll try being a little less mellow
next time.  Living in California yourself, you know
how we californians have the reputation of being
mellow.  I'll pepper my statements from now on.

Thomas





> ;)
> On Jul 31, 2004, at 6:05 PM, Thomas Seay wrote:
> 
> >
> > --- chris wright <cwright-AT-megapathdsl.net> wrote:
> >
> >> That was singularly crap.  The Left is clearly a
> >> rotting corpse.  A
> >> stinky one, at that.
> >>
> >> I have heard this argument that Moore's portrayal
> of
> >
> > Chris, I could not agree with you more.  As you
> say,
> > the film has its problems.  However, having read
> the
> > Wildcat review, you have got to wonder if certain
> > members of the "Left" dont devour their own
> off-spring
> > at birth.  Really a more convoluted, paranoid
> piece of
> > crap than this review, I cannot imagine.
> >
> > It doesnt take a psychologist to realize why the
> > working class might be sometimes so "patriotic". 
> If
> > members of your family are the ones being sent
> away to
> > get their ass shot off, you can either go two
> > ways...either you really hate it with all of your
> soul
> > or you have to try and justify it in your own
> mind. Of
> > course there is plenty of cultural/media
> propaganda to
> > re-enforce the latter response.
> >
> > The middle and upper classes have the privlege to
> sit
> > back and consider war un-emotionally.  The working
> > classes dont have that privlege.  They are going
> to be
> > emotional about war one way or another because it
> is
> > their sons and daughters being sent off.
> >
> > WHO THE FUCK IS THE ASSHOLE WHO WROTE THAT PIECE
> TO
> > SAY THAT HE FEELS MORE SYMPATHY WITH THE
> CONGRESSMEN
> > WHO WONT SEND THEIR CHILDREN OFF TO WAR. If anyone
> > knows him, I beg you to tell him that I think he
> is a
> > jerk and an asshole. Tell him to go to the zoo and
> > masturbate in the lion cage.
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> > ====> > The real world gives the subset of what is; the
> product space 
> > represents the uncertainty of the observer.  The
> product space may 
> > therefore change if the observer changes; and two
> observers may 
> > legitimately use different product spaces within
> which to record the 
> > same subset of actual events in some actual thing.
> The "constraint" is 
> > thus a relation between observer and thing; the
> properties of any 
> > particular constraint will depend on both the real
> thing and on the 
> > observer.  It follows that a substantial part of
> the theory of 
> > organization will be concerned with properties
> that are not intrinsice 
> > to the thing but are relational between observer
> and thing.
> >
> > W. Ross Ashby
> >
> >
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====The real world gives the subset of what is; the product space represents the uncertainty of the observer.  The product space may therefore change if the observer changes; and two observers may legitimately use different product spaces within which to record the same subset of actual events in some actual thing. The "constraint" is thus a relation between observer and thing; the properties of any particular constraint will depend on both the real thing and on the observer.  It follows that a substantial part of the theory of organization will be concerned with properties that are not intrinsice to the thing but are relational between observer and thing.

W. Ross Ashby


	
		
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