Subject: Re: AUT: Tariq Ali: change the world by taking power From: chris wright <cwright-AT-megapathdsl.net> Date: 09 Dec 2004 01:34:34 -0500 The problem with this discussion is that it skirts a variety of issues: First, what kind of power do we want? Power over others or power over our own lives? These are not quite the same. The rejection of state power is not the rejection of collective working class power, of the use of organized violence or social organization against capital in the event of struggles against it. But we do have to ask ourselves: What is the state? John starts from, as do I, the idea that the state is a social formation which stands in place of collective self-organization, which is in fact a moment of a particular kind of class relations. In abstentia from the analysis of the state, Ali can only in fact promote Lenin's concept of the state as an object with a content determined by who runs it. But is this realistic? Can we just take over the state? Can we even smash the state and then reinstitute a "workers' state"? Ali does not even have this in mind. If anything, he starts from the current miserable situation and universalizes it, rather than approaching the problem of what to do today from the concrete. His approach is abstract. Second, where is power located? From the point of view of communism, the state is an obstacle, one which we may certainly be forced to reckon with, but not one which we want to replicate. If revolution does not immediately involve breaking down the separation of life into a multitude of discreet spheres (economic, political, ideological, ethical, legal, etc.), then it cannot hope to engage all of our powers. When Marx describes communism as the return of humanity to itself, he does not mean a return to some previous communism, but a reclaiming of everything which human beings have produced in the past and the present as ours, as the product of our activity and as subordinate to ourselves as our own end. To reinscribe the separation of the economic and the political is to reinscribe the capital-labor relation. Third, none of this prevents us from approaching each and every struggle concretely, but are we left then with only thinking as far as ths or that struggle? It is a recipe for single issue politics or politics which seeks to 'link' issues because it sees life as a series of independent problems. It forgoes exactly what makes Marx's work valuable, IMO. It is a position suitable for making capitalism less nasty, but I do not see any vision from there beyond capital. Fourth, to flesh out this problem of power a bit more, how could one imagine any form of self-organization which did not defend itself and seek to surpass the form of social organization associated with state power? The Zapatistas suffer from isolation, which may be partially a product of their politics, but also a product of the relative weakness of resistance elsewhere. I doubt that the people of Chiapas would consider the last 10 years a waste for their own lives compared to the old days. In fact, when have the people of Chiapas ever had as much direct control over their lives as this last 10 years? On the other hand, where is this sense in Bolivia under the little general? Do people have more control over their lives or simply less repression (a good thing in itself, to be sure)? Power of the sort that interests us then is a power of self-activity, self-organization. It is not therefore unarmed or passive, but requires activity, audacity and struggle. Fifth, it is often hard to see where such power can come from in the current world situation. In different places, different problems present themselves, but nowhere is it obvious what revolution means. Certainly, it does not mean Chavez since Chavez is first and foremost no threat to capital, although maybe to certain capitalists. But to confuse the current impasse with the need to return to the failed politics of state power (and really the last 87 years are a testament to its failure as well as ours), is to simply admit to prefering what exists (even if it is a failure) to what does not-yet-but-may-exist, to the possible. I do not mean to hop on a bandwagon which refuses to engage in struggles unless they meet my criterion, but Ali's article rather does do that. "I won't support the Zapatistas because they have not done things my way, through the state." Then again, the Zapatistas have not turned into the kind of monsters that the very state-power oriented groups like Sendero Luminoso or the FARC become, who murder opponents from the Left, who police any popular struggles that threaten to escape their embrace. This alone is valuable and to be respected. I do not want to go back to the guerrilla armies who are very much a new state in waiting. I do not want to go back to workplace organizations which seek incorporation into the state, nor the state formation of 'workers organizations' as in Yugoslavia or China or the USSR. Forward has to be some other way than through the state, but not without power, just without 'taking power' or as John calls it 'power over'. Just because these are despairing times does not give us the right to succumb to a politics of despair. Cheers, Chris --- from list aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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