File spoon-archives/avant-garde.archive/avant-garde_1994/avant.sep10.94, message 2


Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 10:54:12 -0500 (CDT)
From: Terry Rample <trample-AT-bigcat.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: Libera
To: Carlos Desperdicio <carlosd-AT-rci.ripco.com>
Cc: aaa-web-AT-gnu.ai.mit.edu, punk-list-AT-tut.fi, avant-garde-AT-world.std.com



AWWW- Carlosy wosy wanna get all maddy-waddy.

I'm *not* Tad, so get that idea out of your head. As for his "personal
problems", they aren't many anymore. He lies under the fucking sod outside
Johnson City, Kansas, where he was buried last week. His fucking
fundamentalist parents didn't have the fucking decency to respect his (and
our) wishes and have him cremated. Instead they sucked out all his juice
and filled him with toxic shit, cut his hair and put him in a cheap-ass,
no-back fucking suit for an open-casket funeral in South-Western Kansas
that no one came to (or could afford to get to). Even all his crew in NYC
didn't hear about it until too late. 

I'll admit that the story from the Columbia Tribune was a hoax (not
written by me). They never would have printed such a thing. Actually, the
only place his obit was printed was in the Lawrence paper (a town where he
is quite well known- in and out of the "alternative" community), and that
a half-incher. The circumstances are otherwise correct. Arrests were made
this week in Lawrence in connection with last years heist; also taken but
that wasn't mentioned was about three thousand blank drivers licenses and
the equipment to produce them (the Nat'l Guard armory also doubles as the
DMV office). All this, braniac sleuths, is easily verifiable with a few
phone calls. Go on. I dare you. 

As for what I think of Tad's "Liberate the Male", well, all the best 
parody of the eighties was done in a form that you wouldn't be able to 
tell if it was parody. YOU only knew because I *told* you. If I'd posted it 
over here anon like was suggested (someone told me I'd probably get high 
offense in a high moral tone in response- they were right), you never 
would've known it wasn't for real. We both know shit like that exists. So 
stop being holier than thou, and get down off your fucking high horse. 
You're not impressing anybody, and no sexless punker chick is going to 
fuck you 'cause you're so sensitive and took the (ma?)lingering spirit of 
that indefensible evil Tad to task. You'd be better off doing the animal 
rights thing and "liberating" some fucking chickens and doing some 
chicken fucking. (I ate at KFC last night, BTW. And fucking *LOVED* it)
Original or extra crispy, sir?

"Biker Gang" politics- I like that. Stupid, but cute. 

It is fitting that Tad's demise is being reported as a hoax. We tried to 
find a creative way to announce it, one he would've appreciated, and now 
it's turned into an even bigger fiasco.

He would've loved it.

BTW, if Tad was a misogynist, why did women love him? All his best friends
were women, and his long-term lovers were all either young trailer-park
girls ("My people- they know how to fuck", he used to say) or *prominent
feminist politicos*. Women really dug Tad, for some reason I could never
figure out. Hell, he'd go for a week or more without changing clothes
sometimes in patches of frenzied activities. He looked like the loser guy
in the old "Mystery Date" game...(but everyone secretly wanted that one
anyway), but they fucking fawned over him, even when he was being a total
snarling moody asshole, which was a good part of the time. ("OoooH- he's
*soooo* complex") Call him anything you want, but he was certainly no
"misogynist" -he truly loved women and only really dug the ones who could
say "fuck you" with (and to) authority and mean it (a few weeks ago we
were out drinking and some frats had just started to come back to town.
Tina leaned out the car window, screamed "Fuck you! You'll never get none"
and flashed her tits. Tad said, "God, I've got a hard-on for this one" and
bit her on the ass). He didn't yammer on about "female oppression" or any
of that other single-issue bullshit nonsense, cause he believed, that in
our personal lives, we each must be responsible for our *OWN*
liberation...., and that could only be done by challenging the *TOTALITY*. 

Something you should learn from. Whatsamatter, got too much time on your 
hands in your safe, suburban, middle-class punker existence? Seems like 
you got an awful lot of time to worry about other people's problems....

Let's put this to rest. TAD IS FUCKING DEAD. Check for yourselves, if 
you care...

"male privilege"? HEll, where do I sign up?


On Fri, 9 Sep 1994, Carlos Desperdicio wrote:

> tad-
> we know you're not dead; you're just using that as an excuse to practice
> "biker gang" politics--doing something just to piss people off per se.
> while i enjoy a good parody most of the time (and do be assured that your
> parody stunk on its own merits as far as parodies go, IMHO), this seemed to 
> transcend parody and... well, i'll be honest. it did piss me off. does that
> make me dogmatic by proxy? that i don't find misogyny, however disguised, 
> funny? sure, there are intolerant lesbian separatists out there, just as one 
> is apt to find intolerance just about anywhere. did one of them happen to 
> whack your pee-pee when you were throwing your male privilege around? poor 
> baby... you remind me of one vitaly from mpls, lead singer of a band (aptly
> called) the rejects, who, to advertise his zine, made stickers that said
> "rape feminists". 
> now, i'm no friend of sexophobes, be they on the left or right or wherever; 
> i'm no friend of phobia-mongerers in general. nor am i a friend of reaction-
> aries, those who practice "biker gang" politics (i.e. wearing swastikas just
> to piss people off, among numerous examples). i have my reasons, personally.
> i feel they're valid reasons, shared by not a few of my compas. and as for
> you, kepley, you may be going through some serious personal shit, far more 
> intense than i may ever have. i hesitate to give you any advice, other than
> hang on and be honest with yourself; i don't know your situation. other than
> that, i must express exasperation for having to respond to these "cries for
> help", especially since they take the form of reactionary verbal diarrhea.
> -- carlos desperdicio
> ******************************************
> *  "without moves moves we're nothing."  *
> *-duivichi-un-dua, from tom spanbauer's  *
> * the man who fell in love with the moon *
> ******************************************
> 

   

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