Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 10:54:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Terry Rample <trample-AT-bigcat.missouri.edu> Subject: Re: Libera To: Carlos Desperdicio <carlosd-AT-rci.ripco.com> Cc: aaa-web-AT-gnu.ai.mit.edu, punk-list-AT-tut.fi, avant-garde-AT-world.std.com AWWW- Carlosy wosy wanna get all maddy-waddy. I'm *not* Tad, so get that idea out of your head. As for his "personal problems", they aren't many anymore. He lies under the fucking sod outside Johnson City, Kansas, where he was buried last week. His fucking fundamentalist parents didn't have the fucking decency to respect his (and our) wishes and have him cremated. Instead they sucked out all his juice and filled him with toxic shit, cut his hair and put him in a cheap-ass, no-back fucking suit for an open-casket funeral in South-Western Kansas that no one came to (or could afford to get to). Even all his crew in NYC didn't hear about it until too late. I'll admit that the story from the Columbia Tribune was a hoax (not written by me). They never would have printed such a thing. Actually, the only place his obit was printed was in the Lawrence paper (a town where he is quite well known- in and out of the "alternative" community), and that a half-incher. The circumstances are otherwise correct. Arrests were made this week in Lawrence in connection with last years heist; also taken but that wasn't mentioned was about three thousand blank drivers licenses and the equipment to produce them (the Nat'l Guard armory also doubles as the DMV office). All this, braniac sleuths, is easily verifiable with a few phone calls. Go on. I dare you. As for what I think of Tad's "Liberate the Male", well, all the best parody of the eighties was done in a form that you wouldn't be able to tell if it was parody. YOU only knew because I *told* you. If I'd posted it over here anon like was suggested (someone told me I'd probably get high offense in a high moral tone in response- they were right), you never would've known it wasn't for real. We both know shit like that exists. So stop being holier than thou, and get down off your fucking high horse. You're not impressing anybody, and no sexless punker chick is going to fuck you 'cause you're so sensitive and took the (ma?)lingering spirit of that indefensible evil Tad to task. You'd be better off doing the animal rights thing and "liberating" some fucking chickens and doing some chicken fucking. (I ate at KFC last night, BTW. And fucking *LOVED* it) Original or extra crispy, sir? "Biker Gang" politics- I like that. Stupid, but cute. It is fitting that Tad's demise is being reported as a hoax. We tried to find a creative way to announce it, one he would've appreciated, and now it's turned into an even bigger fiasco. He would've loved it. BTW, if Tad was a misogynist, why did women love him? All his best friends were women, and his long-term lovers were all either young trailer-park girls ("My people- they know how to fuck", he used to say) or *prominent feminist politicos*. Women really dug Tad, for some reason I could never figure out. Hell, he'd go for a week or more without changing clothes sometimes in patches of frenzied activities. He looked like the loser guy in the old "Mystery Date" game...(but everyone secretly wanted that one anyway), but they fucking fawned over him, even when he was being a total snarling moody asshole, which was a good part of the time. ("OoooH- he's *soooo* complex") Call him anything you want, but he was certainly no "misogynist" -he truly loved women and only really dug the ones who could say "fuck you" with (and to) authority and mean it (a few weeks ago we were out drinking and some frats had just started to come back to town. Tina leaned out the car window, screamed "Fuck you! You'll never get none" and flashed her tits. Tad said, "God, I've got a hard-on for this one" and bit her on the ass). He didn't yammer on about "female oppression" or any of that other single-issue bullshit nonsense, cause he believed, that in our personal lives, we each must be responsible for our *OWN* liberation...., and that could only be done by challenging the *TOTALITY*. Something you should learn from. Whatsamatter, got too much time on your hands in your safe, suburban, middle-class punker existence? Seems like you got an awful lot of time to worry about other people's problems.... Let's put this to rest. TAD IS FUCKING DEAD. Check for yourselves, if you care... "male privilege"? HEll, where do I sign up? On Fri, 9 Sep 1994, Carlos Desperdicio wrote: > tad- > we know you're not dead; you're just using that as an excuse to practice > "biker gang" politics--doing something just to piss people off per se. > while i enjoy a good parody most of the time (and do be assured that your > parody stunk on its own merits as far as parodies go, IMHO), this seemed to > transcend parody and... well, i'll be honest. it did piss me off. does that > make me dogmatic by proxy? that i don't find misogyny, however disguised, > funny? sure, there are intolerant lesbian separatists out there, just as one > is apt to find intolerance just about anywhere. did one of them happen to > whack your pee-pee when you were throwing your male privilege around? poor > baby... you remind me of one vitaly from mpls, lead singer of a band (aptly > called) the rejects, who, to advertise his zine, made stickers that said > "rape feminists". > now, i'm no friend of sexophobes, be they on the left or right or wherever; > i'm no friend of phobia-mongerers in general. nor am i a friend of reaction- > aries, those who practice "biker gang" politics (i.e. wearing swastikas just > to piss people off, among numerous examples). i have my reasons, personally. > i feel they're valid reasons, shared by not a few of my compas. and as for > you, kepley, you may be going through some serious personal shit, far more > intense than i may ever have. i hesitate to give you any advice, other than > hang on and be honest with yourself; i don't know your situation. other than > that, i must express exasperation for having to respond to these "cries for > help", especially since they take the form of reactionary verbal diarrhea. > -- carlos desperdicio > ****************************************** > * "without moves moves we're nothing." * > *-duivichi-un-dua, from tom spanbauer's * > * the man who fell in love with the moon * > ****************************************** >
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