File spoon-archives/avant-garde.archive/avant-garde_1997/97-01-27.165, message 19


Date: Mon, 23 Dec 96 09:45 PST
From: solipsis-AT-hevanet.com (Jeremiah.......the Silex)
Subject: Re: thinking outside of language


>>>The problem here is this definition of language
>>
>>Recently heard a Chomsky lecture in which he speculated:
>>"We cannot dismiss the possibility that a future science of mind may dispense
>>with the concept 'language' altogether."
>>
>Two things are being confused here, the first is perception and cognition,
>the second is thought and representation. The problem is not how one
>defines language but which functions of are its domain.


Well Done.. Though I would suggest to you that this "new" Science already
exists, and was designated [PRAGMATICS] BY Deleuze and Guattari. See
"Postulates of Linguistics" in A Thousand Plateaus... or the subsection
entitled "There are Constants or Universals of Language that enable us to
define It as a Homogenous System"

 Now I would suggest an introduction to Alfred Korzybski for those following
this thread at:

http://userwww.sfsu.edu/~rsauzier/Korzybski.html

and for a lark try Croyley's Tao Teh King

at:

http://www.intac.com/~dimitri/dh/tao-te-king.html

Here are some other related subjects:

Nonlinear dynamics, solitons, optical and solid state physics, biomolecular
dynamics, stochastic systems.  Derivation of non-linear partial differential
equations from water wave theory,
optics, solid state physics and molecular dynamics. Balance between
nonlinearity and dispersion.
Solitary waves and solitons, non-linear interaction, decomposition into
solitons and radiation,
conservation theorems. Technological applications of solitons. Analytical
and numerical solution
methods. Generalized separation of variables. B=E4cklund-transformation
inverse Scattering Tecniques
perturbation theory and similarity solutions. Spatio-temporal competition
between order and chaos.

or go here:

http://www.ma.hw.ac.uk/solitons/

oceanic solitons:
http://www.jhuapl.edu/symposium/3rd_RandD/Soliton.htm


Evolution of Randomly Perturbed Korteweg-de Vries
Solitons
http://www.imm.dtu.dk/documents/users/mps/abstracts/KdV

Then begin to shade in the Information Theory:
at:
An Information Theory Approach to
Incoherent Information Processing Systems
http://ocswebhost.colorado.edu/isl/papers/info/paper.html


Some interesting gropings at:
http://www.krl.caltech.edu/~brown/news/info-theory-html/


Articles on Information Theory
by Jon Barwise
http://www.phil.indiana.edu/~barwise/kjbartit.html


Now perhaps we move on to the Systems theory Component:

A good place to start is the Pricipia Cybernetica:
http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be//systheor.html

and flounder off in that direction:
http://www.math.utwente.nl/disc/sc/sc.html

here's something:
Systems Inquiry Primer Project



By Charles Francois

Who Knows What General Systems Theory Is?

In my opinion General Systems Theory does not really exist as a unified
theory. Claims to the
contrary seem to harm our credibility.

"Systems Science(s)" is also a dubious trademark. Everyone understands it
and defines it in her/his
own way. Nobody seems to be able to offer a coherant and all embracing view
of what it is (with
the possible exception of Jean Louis Lemoigne in France, whose ideas would
deserve to be
considered in an international symposium)'

Curiously enough, this disarray somewhat reminds me of the famous Indian
tale about the elephant
and the five blind men...which ironically has precisely been proposed as a
metaphor for the need of a
systemic vision.

However, there is undoubtly a systemic-cybernetic vision ("Weltanschauung")
which includes:

-A conceptual frame:
- A systemic ontology and epistemology;
-General Semantics;
-Constructivism;
-The controllled uses of metaphors, analogies and isomorphies.
- The general study and understanding of complexity
-A general taxonomy of systems
-An open set of transdiscliplinary concepts related to complexity;
Aura,Autogenesis, Autonomy, Autopoiesis, Boundary, Chaos, Codification,
Communication,
Constraint, Control, \Dissipative structuration, Emergence, Environment,
Explosive process,
Hierarchy, Heterarchy, Homeostasis, Implosion Process, Information,
Invironment, Metasystem,
Morphogenesis, Morphostatis, Network, Neural organization, Organizational
closure, Percolation,
Regulation, Self-reference, Self-similarity, Simultaneity, Stress, Synergy,
Uncompleteness, Variety,
Whole... and surely some more.

A methdology of models derived from these concepts:
- Controlllers,
-Feedbacks,
- Homeostat,
- Hypercycle,
- Learning matrixes,
- Markovian Matrixes,
-Metamodelling,
- Neural networks, etc.

A number of more or less interconnected qualitative mathematical formalisms:
-Analysis of reconstructibility (Klir),
- Automate (Turing, von -Neuman, Conway),
-Calculus of indications (Spencer Brown,),
-Catastrophes (Thom, Zeeman).
-Deterministic Chaos (Lorenz, Smale, et al.),
- Fractals (Mandelbrot),
- Fuzzy sets (Zadeh),
-Games, Graphs, Groups, etc...

A number of specific applications:
- Expert systems,
-Servo-mechanisms,
-Simulation techniques,
-Systems dynamics, etc...

- ...and, indirectly, a number of more specific disciplines:
-Artificial intelligence,
-Artificial Life,
-Bionics,
-Informatics,
-Operational reserach,
-Robotics, etc...

In short, an enormous trove, totally or partially unknown, even by the
systemists themselves.


By Charles Francois



Now, when and how these interrelated Cathexes arc to A-G... Ring ring ...

Zero.



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