File spoon-archives/avant-garde.archive/avant-garde_1997/97-01-27.165, message 91


Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 01:40:37 -0400
From: ostrow-AT-is2.nyu.edu (Ostrow/Kaneda)
Subject: Re: Is elaboration passe'?


>>  >>>>>>>>>>natural => not human, what??
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>what you believe it to be.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>Short answers abstract.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>Is truth a matter of belief?
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>"Both belief and denial throw existence into question."
>> > >>>>>>>>                 --Carla Harryman, "Toy Boats"
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>So truth wouuld have something to do with the >affirmation of
>> existence?
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>"If you don't know, why do you ask?" --David Tudor
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>If one does not ask how are they to know?
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>. . .what reply does one make to someone who says: "I believe it
>> merely
>> > >>>>>>strikes you as if you knew it?" --Ludwig Wittgenstein
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>>Yet we know that there are things that can be said that are
>> non-sensical,
>> > >>>>>>might not truth therefor only exist in the realm of the >sensical,
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>"A belief may be a necessary condition of life and still be false."
>> > >>>>>--Nietzsche
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>Metamorphosis (sublimation and symbolization) consists, for each thing,
>> in
>> > >>>>the liberation of an aliquid which is the noematic attribute and that
>> which
>> > >>>>can noetically be expressed, eternal truth, and sense which hovers over
>> > >>bodies.
>> > >>>>--Gilles Deleuze
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>To whom are you intelligible and where does it get you?
>> > >>>>           --Laura Moriarty
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>Paradigmatic shifts  make what was once thought to be false become
>> > >>>>intelligible, yet there are those things that are patently true and
>> those
>> > >>>>things that are obviously false, which remain uneffected by such
>> changes,
>> > >>>>therefor the eternal is not a condition of truth but of belief and
>> neither
>> > >>>>are necessary for communication given the false is as equally
>> comprehended
>> > >>>>asits other.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Pragmatics as Free Jazz. Example: Alternative splicing of human tyrosine
>> > >>>hydroxylase (TH) pre-mRNA produces four mRNAs leading (nowhere); "Fron's
>> > >>>Forehead Music-Box and today, AND TODAY...." /to four different TH
>> isoforms
>> > >>>and is thought to have important regulatory functions. We show that the
>> > >>>(void)/ "Inside Are Viennese Hardstone Swans With ShiShi's golden
>> > >>>Snuff-Box...
>> > >>
>> > >>A. Language is descriptive, conventionalized as well
>> > >>B. Convention is completely anti-entropic (hang on Ann...)
>> > >>C. Reality is entropic
>> > >>D. Language and its purpose are in irreperable conflict...
>> > >>
>> > >>Language is a losing battle; besides, where does truth lie in a system
>> that
>> > >>is historically determined, fraught with the ideology of a ruling class-
>> > >>
>> > >>LANGUAGE, as are all conventionalized forms, IS A BOURGEIOSE PROPAGANDA
>> TOOL
>> > >>
>> > >>        truth therefore, serves only those who it serves best; my ego
>> requires
>> > >>        that I be right, else............................what?
>> > >
>> > >If we keep this thing going long enough the top will resemble a kind of
>> > >Hound's tooth
>> > >jacket>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<
>> > >
>> >
>> > Is there something wrong with hounds truth?
>>
>> Truth is a burning museum.   /:b
>>
>> "What you don't know can hurt other people."
>>                   -- Ted Berrigan
>I don't know Ted Berrigan

The pentagon papers, if that means nothing to you, just write it off to a
generational thing.  Other wise its historical   amnesia which and that  is
something thatmay in the long run be harmful to your health. Beyond that he
was a 60's role model to some.  A radical in sheeps clothing.  An insider
who did the right thing.




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