Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 02:20:01 -0500 (EST) From: Ruth Liberman <rql1220-AT-is2.nyu.edu> Subject: Re: Is elaboration passe'? On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, Ostrow/Kaneda wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>natural => not human, what?? > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>what you believe it to be. > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>Short answers abstract. > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>Is truth a matter of belief? > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>"Both belief and denial throw existence into question." > >> > >>>>>>>> --Carla Harryman, "Toy Boats" > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>So truth wouuld have something to do with the >affirmation of > >> existence? > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>"If you don't know, why do you ask?" --David Tudor > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>If one does not ask how are they to know? > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>. . .what reply does one make to someone who says: "I believe it > >> merely > >> > >>>>>>strikes you as if you knew it?" --Ludwig Wittgenstein > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>>>Yet we know that there are things that can be said that are > >> non-sensical, > >> > >>>>>>might not truth therefor only exist in the realm of the >sensical, > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>>"A belief may be a necessary condition of life and still be false." > >> > >>>>>--Nietzsche > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>>Metamorphosis (sublimation and symbolization) consists, for each thing, > >> in > >> > >>>>the liberation of an aliquid which is the noematic attribute and that > >> which > >> > >>>>can noetically be expressed, eternal truth, and sense which hovers over > >> > >>bodies. > >> > >>>>--Gilles Deleuze > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>>To whom are you intelligible and where does it get you? > >> > >>>> --Laura Moriarty > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>>Paradigmatic shifts make what was once thought to be false become > >> > >>>>intelligible, yet there are those things that are patently true and > >> those > >> > >>>>things that are obviously false, which remain uneffected by such > >> changes, > >> > >>>>therefor the eternal is not a condition of truth but of belief and > >> neither > >> > >>>>are necessary for communication given the false is as equally > >> comprehended > >> > >>>>asits other. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>Pragmatics as Free Jazz. Example: Alternative splicing of human tyrosine > >> > >>>hydroxylase (TH) pre-mRNA produces four mRNAs leading (nowhere); "Fron's > >> > >>>Forehead Music-Box and today, AND TODAY...." /to four different TH > >> isoforms > >> > >>>and is thought to have important regulatory functions. We show that the > >> > >>>(void)/ "Inside Are Viennese Hardstone Swans With ShiShi's golden > >> > >>>Snuff-Box... > >> > >> > >> > >>A. Language is descriptive, conventionalized as well > >> > >>B. Convention is completely anti-entropic (hang on Ann...) > >> > >>C. Reality is entropic > >> > >>D. Language and its purpose are in irreperable conflict... > >> > >> > >> > >>Language is a losing battle; besides, where does truth lie in a system > >> that > >> > >>is historically determined, fraught with the ideology of a ruling class- > >> > >> > >> > >>LANGUAGE, as are all conventionalized forms, IS A BOURGEIOSE PROPAGANDA > >> TOOL > >> > >> > >> > >> truth therefore, serves only those who it serves best; my ego > >> requires > >> > >> that I be right, else............................what? > >> > > > >> > >If we keep this thing going long enough the top will resemble a kind of > >> > >Hound's tooth > >> > >jacket>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<< > >> > > > >> > > >> > Is there something wrong with hounds truth? > >> > >> Truth is a burning museum. /:b > >> > >> "What you don't know can hurt other people." > >> -- Ted Berrigan > >I don't know Ted Berrigan > > The pentagon papers, if that means nothing to you, just write it off to a > generational thing. Other wise its historical amnesia which and that is > something thatmay in the long run be harmful to your health. Beyond that he > was a 60's role model to some. A radical in sheeps clothing. An insider > who did the right thing. > What I really want to know is, did I hurt you? --- from list avant-garde-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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