File spoon-archives/avant-garde.archive/avant-garde_1997/97-02-19.172, message 169


Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:09:34 -0600
From: ann klefstad <klefkal-AT-cp.duluth.mn.us>
Subject: Re:  Art in the gutter.


Malgosia wrote:
>I guess my own gutter-tiedness comes from the fact that I always think of art
>in terms of _action_, and in some sense for me the quintessential art-action
>is, stubbornly, Vautier's sitting on a chair in the street, with the sign
>"Look at me.  This suffices.  I am art".  I do software for a living, so
>it's not a lack of knowledge of programming languages that's my gutter, 
>it's this fixation on the quality of _staking a claim_, of asserting place.  
>Contrary to what you describe, Joseph, to me the internet seems empoverished 
>precisely in this area of action, or inter-action.  The only satisfying 
>inter-actions I find on the net are e-mail lists, but that's because I 
>think of them in very gutter-like terms, as living interactions with
_people_.  
>I get bored with everything on the net that doesn't have this quality, and 
>that feels like just interacting with text or images or "virtual 
>enviroments".  If I want those things, I would rather read a book or go 
>to the movies or to a gallery, because there I can turn the pages, be with 
>people, walk around things, and so on.  I guess it boils down to something 
>Saul said, that ultimately when one is on the net one is just sitting, mostly
>alone, looking at a screen. 
>
>
>-m 
>
Yes and most certainly yes! Nostalgie pour bue . . . 

And having sat here long enough, I will now go play with my 3 yr old.
klefstad
>
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