File spoon-archives/avant-garde.archive/avant-garde_1997/97-02-19.172, message 3


Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:15:08 -0600
From: ann klefstad <klefkal-AT-cp.duluth.mn.us>
Subject: Re: Beuys &the Coyote


At 02:52 PM 1/27/97 -0500, john zalew wrote:
>Olivier:
>
>>In
>>the movie, Beuys looks superiors to the animal,it's more an animal training
>>than a meeting.
>I didn't see the movie, but could you  see it as a mutual understanding 
>between Beuys and the coyote? An establishment of bounds and positions? 
>This is not a dog. This is a non-domesticated, not to mention 
>carnivoruos, canine. You wouldn't cuddle it.
>
>am i right? this was a wild coyote, correct?
>Heiko:
>
>>Well, we are superior to animals, dont you think so? 
>This piece illustrates for me how culture (Beuy's attitude) IS our animal 
>behavior.
>Maybe  Beuys was tell the coyote with his body language "if you sink your 
>fangs into my, say, groin, i'll just...i'll...i'll...well, my friend 
>outside will come in here with a dart gun and SHOOT you, you little 
>mutt!" or something along those lines maybe adding, "i'm making ART here!"
>Again, i didn't see the movie...only stills...
>Michael B.:
>
>>we are not superior to animals, we are animals.
>i need to keep reminding myself...
>
>john z
>
>
>
>Reproducing whole string because it's a good one--

Yes, John, I think human culture is our adaptive behavior, our "animal
behavior," human culture is our birdsong, our snarls.

And it has no significance outside of human terms. It's of great importance
to us, but it's ephemera in any other terms. It's interesting that sometimes
the right scale helps in deciding what is useful in a field.

And I'm not a vegetarian.

And BTW, hello again to all. I had to leave my previous email server and get
a new one plus engage in an intensive bunch of work on stuff.
Hope all are well.

Ann Klefstad
>



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