Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 20:15:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: GOV - Terms of Surrender (fwd)



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>From: Liberty or Death <ghostpwr-AT-earthlink.net> 
>Subject: IP: (fwd) Terms of Surrender
>     
>This message was given to us by a programmer who recently quit a major 
>Y2K compliance project for the government. He wishes to remain 
>anonymous. - J.J. 
>     
>Terms of Surrender
>     
>ATTENTION Federal Government (and others as well):
>     
>Well, well... After months of  us being called names from "chicken 
>little" to "doomsday alarmists," William Jefferson Clinton has finally 
>addressed the Y2K problem and the potential damage that could occur on 
>or before New Year's Day, 2000. This means that you (the government) 
>have finally admitted your weakness - your Achilles heel. With that 
>in mind, we think now is the time for all of us to sit down and have 
>a little chat.
>     
>Computer experts have stated that virtually every programmer available 
>is in use today, and you still need 500,000 to 750,000 programmers to 
>repair the problems - just here in the US. Since many of these 
>computers use old languages (FORTRAN, COBOL, BASIC, etc.), you are 
>under the impression that the original programmers are long gone. It 
>is this false impression you have that enables us to offer you the 
>Terms of your Surrender to the American public. But remember, this 
>olive branch we offer - this agreement, will be pulled off the table 
>on December 31, 1998. It's your choice. First, a little background:
>     
>You figured that since those old mainframes that were built in the 
>50s, 60s, and 70s they were programmed by people who have long since 
>retired. At least that's what you said publicly. But the fact is, 
>many of those same mainframes were upgraded since then. Remember the 
>Reagan Revolution? Yes, all the young corporate raiders - the ones 
>that re-tooled the military, and helped build all those modern 
>skyscrapers. Didn't they also program (and re-program) many of those 
>machines for an ever expanding government? Where are they?
>     
>Admit it. Most of the folks who programmed those mainframes in the 
>past have not retired, died, or disappeared. Just use the math. Most 
>of those old mainframe programmers can't be more than 55 today. But 
>where are they? Who are they?
>     
>They are the people who served you breakfast in that greasy spoon 
>on your way to work this morning. The guy who shined your shoes. That 
>janitor you saw the other day. That old cab driver who took you to 
>the airport. The middle aged woman behind the ticket counter. The 
>guy pumping gas at that rural truck stop. The truck driver himself. 
>Maybe that right-wing talk show host.  Some are in jail for crimes 
>without victims - crimes against you, the government.  The people 
>you called names for daring to speak out against government 
>atrocities. The people that have been talking about this potential 
>problem for almost 20 years. The people who get on the internet and 
>write letters like this.
>     
>By now, a light bulb has probably gone off in your head. "Have we been 
>set up?", "Hoodwinked?" The answer is, no. You haven't. Yes, we remember 
>those old languages. Some of us even have the source books. You see, 
>you made us sit there and "vegetate" in front of that old key-punch 
>machine or keyboard, and then took all the credit for the new 
>innovations, while taxing us into involuntary servitude. So, we found 
>better things to do with our lives. We dropped out. Of course, we 
>realize now that the future of the world economy and government as we 
>know it is in peril. You're probably wondering why haven't we told 
>you this earlier and come to the rescue?
>     
>ANSWER: We don't want to.
>     
>If crashing the entire world economy is what it takes to bring down 
>agencies like the IRS, FBI, FEMA, and the EPA then so be it. We know 
>we can never really beat you by force. You think we don't know that 
>helping you solve your computer problem would only place heavier 
>yokes on us down the road? Didn't you consider that went you hired 
>those "geeks" to fix your problems? Nope. You were so desperate to 
>fix the problem, you never bother to ask the person, "Say, how do 
>you feel about big government, anyway? How do your parents feel 
>about it?" You figured throwing money (our money) at the problem 
>would be the cure.  The only guarantee you have that your Y2K bug 
>is cured is "our word on it." Now, you're in a panic mode. You're 
>probably thinking, "Gee, what if one (or more) of those Y2K computer 
>repair people are really..."
>     
>Don't say it. We know what you're thinking. And besides, it's too 
>late.
>     
>Don't even try and blame us for it. There's no conspiracy here. 
>Nobody "formed an agreement" to screw up your systems. In fact many 
>of us tried to tell you. But we were written off as alarmists. Smarty 
>pants. Making excuses for not doing our jobs. You pushed us. All you 
>wanted was results. Meet the deadline. Meet the deadline. Save 
>memory space. Worry about the other problems later. By then there 
>would be some other suckers to enslave. Sorry, but we're all slaved 
>out.
>     
>You're hoping (and looking) for a "silver bullet."  Well, there is a 
>silver bullet. In fact, we ARE the silver bullet. We know the systems. 
>We know the codes. And with a little time, we can fix the problem. 
>But in order to gain our assistance, you must first meet the 
>following terms:
>     
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>     
>SURRENDER NOW
>     
>We want the 16th amendment, and all laws passed thereto, repealed. 
>This means ALL of Title 26 of the US code. That will include all 
>those stupid tax and gun laws.
>     
>SURRENDER NOW
>     
>We want a constitutional amendment passed removing the phrases, 
>"regulate interstate commerce," and "promote the general welfare" 
>removed from the constitution. You've perverted their true meaning 
>for far too long.
>     
>SURRENDER NOW
>     
>Repeal the 17th amendment. We want our states to have the ability 
>to recall treasonous Senators whenever we see fit.
>     
>SURRENDER NOW
>     
>All agencies will be tested for its justifiable existence under the 
>9th and 10 amendments. It not, all employees of said agency must be 
>terminated from employment - without compensation. Don't worry, 
>they'll find other jobs. They can grow the food you've told farmers 
>not to grow. They can make the natural medicine that the FDA has 
>regulated out of existence. They can manufacture the products you've 
>farmed off to third world countries. There will be plenty of work 
>available. It's called a "free market."
>     
>SURRENDER NOW
>     
>Give up the land holdings. NOW. No more harassing farmers for 
>grazing rights. No more wetlands grabbing. Scrap all the 
>"biodiversity" regions. No more kicking people off  "public" land. 
>If you need land for the military, fine. But that's about it. 
>Anything else goes private. Period.
>     
>SURRENDER NOW
>     
>We want you out of our paychecks, out of our churches, out of our 
>medicine cabinets, out of our homes, out of the U.N. and of course - 
>OFF the internet!
>     
>SURRENDER NOW
>     
>Every potential juror in every court must be told they have the 
>right to not only judge the facts, but the law itself - no matter 
>what the judge says. They will NOT be held in contempt for making a 
>decision.
>     
>SURRENDER NOW
>     
>All political prisoners (US citizens charged with crimes against 
>government -- IRS, drug, gun, etc.) are to receive amnesty. That's 
>about 75% of the federal inmate population.
>     
>SURRENDER NOW
>     
>All federal employees, agents, and officers who have committed 
>violent crimes against U.S. citizens, who have committed High 
>Treason, shall be tried according to the law - in state courts.
>     
>SURRENDER NOW
>     
>Or fix these problems yourself. 
>     
>We know this is a tall order, and you probably won't agree to any of  
>it. In fact, you'll probably never admit that you even read this. But 
>we know you are monitoring our communications.  So here's some little 
>secrets that will help motivate your decision.
>     
>Read the news stories about programmers who have quit and are moving 
>to the hills? And all those naval officers who are quitting?  And all 
>of those pilots?  And all of those doctors?
>     
>They are among the thousands (probably millions) joining us in our 
>rural retreats. We've got the bibles, the beans, the bandages, the 
>bullets -- and the brains. And you can't have them. I'm sure your 
>federal snitches have given you numerous reports of people who simply 
>won't file their tax returns next year. They're probably doing the 
>same thing. Why bother? You'll have no way of counting it, anyway. 
>Good luck trying to spend billions to fix the Y2K problem with only 
>millions (or thousands) to pay for it. Nobody told us to do it. We've 
>made up our own minds. We would rather starve than take your national 
>ID cards. We would rather die than take a mark on our forehead or 
>hands. The tobacco companies won't bail you out. The firearms 
>manufacturers won't bail you out. The Chinese won't bail you out. 
>And don't be surprised to see people closing out all those IRAs, 
>401k's and mutual fund accounts by the middle of next year. We'll 
>need the cash for those last few bits of survival gear. Next year, 
>you will be on your own.
>     
>Don't bother having CNN and the AP lie to us and say that you've 
>fixed the problem. We won't believe it. We know the programmers. We 
>are the programmers. We are the silver bullet. And we have absolutely 
>no desire to repair the problem no matter how many federal reserve 
>notes you print out. We will watch from afar - from a safe distance. 
>We will survive. We will say a prayer for you, and the poor slobs 
>who supported you, as they lose what little grip they have on 
>civilized life. You will reap what you have sewn. Economics chaos, 
>food shortages, disease, death and destruction will take over the 
>cities. You will be powerless to stop it. And we will not fire a 
>shot to make it happen. Some cities will indeed end in flames - 
>flames that will light a path to our posterity's freedom. Ugly 
>scenario, isn't it?
>     
>Surrender now. None of us will be entertained by watching you wither 
>up and die. What a sobering way to ring in the next millennium. But it 
>won't be our problem. It's is not our duty to help you. We'll have 
>the unfortunate duty of properly disposing of your rotting corpses. 
>Agree to our terms, and some of us - a few of us, may agree to help 
>you in return.
>     
>So, think about it. Also think about what happened recently in 
>Russia, Japan, Indonesia, Pakistan, North Korea, and other countries 
>now undergoing economic and societal meltdown. Go ask them how well 
>their computers worked to help save them. Remember who sold them to 
>them (I'm sure they do). And take a look at history:  No great nation 
>has ever fallen from a force of arms, but from an unwillingless of 
>its citizenry to support it.
>     
>If you would like more insight on this phenomenon, read Atlas 
>Shrugged, by Ayn Rand.  It was written in the 40's. It has sold 
>more copies than anything but the Bible (including your little Red 
>Book) and it's still available in major book stores everywhere.  For 
>those of you who can't read (i.e. recent public school graduates), 
>you can find it on audiocassette.
>     
>There will be no IMF around when it happens nor will there be any 
>taxpayers left to foot the bill. Think about these terms, and make 
>a decision. But remember, the clock is ticking (no pun intended).
>     
>We'll be watching C-SPAN, awaiting your decision,
>     
>John Q. Public - We are everywhere.
>     
>- - Monte
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>                 Let the sea roar and its fulness, 
>               The world and those who dwell in it.
>                 Let the rivers clap their hands; 
>      Let the mountains sing together for joy before the Lord.
>               For He is coming to judge the earth;
>            He will judge the world with righteousness, 
>                   And the peoples with equity.
>                           - Psalm 98
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