Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:13:34 -0500
From: Barry Smylie <barrysmylie-AT-iname.com>
Subject: Re: posting at duchimp


Yes... Avi I agree when all the cable subscribers (in numbers like telephone
subscription) are wired in two way transmissions then the political ramifications will
be enormous.  Government will certainly become a sort of participatory democracy like
those forums of our Grecian mythos.

My presumption is... internet art on the grand scale will be more labor intensive and
much more expensive than the performance and production of television serials.  I
think we should be banding together now under the playful auspices of such file trees
as Duchimp so that we can be in line online and at least partially ready for digital
compliance.

We have to make a kitty and advance our programming skills into JAVA and JINNI and the
construction of virtual environmental multi-player scenario structures using our art
as clues and queues for participation.

That's why I proposed you me and Jeff working on those inter language iconic signs
posted in airport terminals and hospitals that you have been fixing on in your frantic
animation... a truly international medium requires a inter cultural visually (rather
than verbally) based communication - entertainment structure... a visual grammar.

Considering that you are multilingual (at least three languages right?) and placed in
a war zone you should head the project... you should be highly motivated to make
peace... let's do it... give us some instruction and direction.

http://members.tripod.com/duchimp

Avi Rosen wrote:

> with web-TV more then 95% of western population is loged to the net.
> one can create, participate, or consume art from his living room. much
> less formal & expensive than the traditional way (museum, studio, art
> materials, time, etc.)
>
> > - there is pleasure of the body in the old time materials
>
> this is exactly my feeling when making my electronic art!
>
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> On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Barry Smylie wrote:
>
> > yes exactly and especially artists
> > artists could always count on our old (original tool and face paint) charcoal
> > and
> > the best mediums do not require complicated viewing devices - like expensive
> > frames
> > but
> > the internet (through cheap consumer web tv and 2002 digital compliance when the
> > $300 external digital descrambler must be built into the set and all
> > transmissions must be primarily digital - although an analog carrier will be
> > allowed at broadcaster's decision) might be the most important and approachable
> > and mass age appropriate medium.... your computer might not be the consumer
> > machine - it might be a studio tool... the tv itself will probably be the way
> > that the average person views your work
> >
> > but that still leaves the walls barren and lifeless
> >
> > i like to use my hands in ways other than this limited typing and mouse handling
> > - there is pleasure of the body in the old time materials
> >
> > http://members.tripod.com/duchimp
> >
> > the infinite monkeys actively seek your critical and academic "papers" please
> >
> >
> > Judith Bailey wrote:
> >
> > > This is so deep....however have some forgotten that not everyone can purchase
> > > a computer with all the appropiate software? The unfortunate ones will have
> > > to continue to worship the god of the inexpensive paper and pencil.
> > > Materialism is in the eye of the beholder!
> > >
> > > Judith
> > > http://art.net/~judith/
> > >
> > > Barry Smylie wrote:
> > >
> > > > > >i cannot bear the tactile nature of 250 gram hand laid rag paper
> > > > > >my fingers caressing it and thinking of paris rag pickers
> > > > > >i cannot confront the hundreds of hours of planning and drawing and
> > > > > >etching
> > > > > >the grinding of stone on stone - the vent of fumes
> > > > > >i loath the idea of rushes and revisions on plates
> > > > > >trying to dissuade the "artist" away from labor intensive revisions
> > > > > >the shear effort of it
> > > > >
> > > > > this is very dificult situation for a  generation educated in a
> > > > > traditional material culture, to switch from a
> > > > > action in material world to a virtual one. its like worshiping a 'God'
> > > > > with no aqppirance instad of a material idol.
> > > > > Avi.
> > > >
> > > > for me (smylie:) .avi i find it difficult to maintain my ties with the old
> > > > world art idol
> > > > i am loosing my grip on materialism
> > > > i am caught in a spiritualist votex digital black whole multimedia thing
> > > >
> > > > is it wise to be drawn drawing so far from the actuality of stone
> > > > of cast epoxy resin
> > > > of acrylic emulsion on nylon canvas?
> > > >
> > > > is the internet
> > > > like the academy
> > > > a read only crashed herring
> > > > drug
> > > > along
> > > > the path?
> > > >
> > > > pilgrim.avi
> >
> >
> >



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