Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:53:16 -0500 From: Bill Spornitz <spornitz-AT-pangea.ca> Subject: Re: Digitalisation of things. Sorry - I should be clearer - we must take ownership of the concepts that we are led around by - maybe it's just *semantics* - bla bla bla - but ==> *your* networking == *my* marketing ==> I don't care if you live in a society that is so *over-marketed* that you must run at all costs and at high speed from concepts that you see as *theirs*... I'm talking market socialism, market anarchy, market art-weenie-ism - whatever - just get used to the idea that it's All a big Marketplace and you'll find more targets for your *dissemination* (gotta find a less-male word than that one ;-) b ps and you gotta make fun of their marketing at any chance you get (imho!) At 10:53 AM -0600 4/11/00, mIEKAL aND wrote: >as a 20+ year veteran of networking a tremendous amount of arts are >disseminated >despite marketing, by person to person contact & creating work that is >uncompromised by the throes of market capitalism.... > > >mIEKAL > > > > > >Bill Spornitz wrote: > >> As a 20+ year veteran of the music *industry* I'll tell you => it's >> all marketing. Ever heard of Evan Parker (British saxophonist - quite >> outside at times)? Sun Rah? Well, that's marketing. How else would >> you have heard of them? >> >> You are a *25yr old post-modern*, an improvisor? - that's marketing... >> >> b >> >> At 11:48 PM +1000 4/11/00, Christian McBride wrote: >> >***Warning sujective analogy following*** >> >what happened to improvising? >> > >> >why is an 'avant-guard' list concerned with marketing? >> > >> >why doesnt '.com' mean www.challenging.content.com :technology is soo >> >overated. by cultural theorists and those out for a quick dollar. >> >technology is not an end in itself and i remain bored (in the i'm a 25yr >> >old post-modern way) with everything i see online. >> > >> >i have studied my instrument for 12 yrs and have no career in >> >recording...for me this is secondary to performance with an audience and >> >improvising with other people/machines etc. the recording process is >> >interesting for me for the period i am involved in it. >> > >> >cmb >> > >> >At 09:19 11/04/00 -0700, edatkeson-AT-earthlink.net wrote: >> >>Heiko: >> >>>>> Music, hmmm, you can still sell things, CDs, books. My advice to the >> >>recording industry: make your CDs more beautifull. As a thing, that >> >>people want to have, even when the copy sounds the same. >> >>-------------------------- >> >>The music has been connected with an object, with a sleeve, photos of >> >>celebs, cool design. We will maybe find out now how important that is. >> >> >> >>As the ease of copying and fidelity of the copy increase, there's a >> >>threshold, no? a point where there will be a disturbance in a very old >> >>business model. >> >>best, >> >>Ed A >> >> >> >> >> >> --- from list avant-garde-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > --- from list avant-garde-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- >> >> --- from list avant-garde-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- > > > > > > --- from list avant-garde-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- --- from list avant-garde-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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