From: dragon.jean-AT-uqam.ca
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 00:45:35 -0500
Subject: Re: city of poets: =?iso-8859-1?Q?stupidit=E9?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_?=


>Dear Sir:
?

>
>You wrote:
>
>>Is this really of a collective interest for Georges Bataille?
>
>Mr. Bataille was a librarian with a few friends in high places. His daddy
>had the syphillis and his mama was none too bright either. The boy had to be
>a surrealist. No other choice. Dada and Surrealism saved his life.

=2E..

>
>What do you expect from a list devoted to a poor librarian who happened to
>be friends with Picasso? You expected an intellectual discourse, already?
>You must be looking for List Heidegger or List Kirkegaard or something. Them
>boys with degrees.
>
>Here, you just got a bunch of renegades.
>
>You got your inspectors and your Muslims and your army veterans and your
>social-radicals and your pot smokers and your vegetable lovers and your
>curry boilers and your well coordinated Latinos and your token Australian
>and your aristocratic violinist and your female mixed up with the male.

Well did you finish you highscholl diploma or is it you parents that taught
you to think so bad?

>
>You are certainly most welcome here but, if you have any academic
>pretensions--
>well, you take this stick of dynamite, see, and you light it up--right there
>at the fuse--and you throw it. Don't matter where it hits. But, if I was
>you, I would not aim it in my direction.

Vous parlez comme si cette liste vous appartenait... Sachez que j'y
participais bien avant que votre sombre nom n'y apparaisse...


>
>Come on. Light it up. You want to throw a grenade? I can teach you. It's easy.

	Une liste n'est pas une fantaisie mais bien un lieu de discussion
et d'échange qui dmeurent dans les limites de l'intitulée, soit Georges
Bataille.

>
>God, please don't start with the "This is this and that is that" routine.
>Loosen up. Enjoy yourself. This list is your fantasy.

	Pourquoi croyez-vous que cela devient une routine ence qui vous
concerne? Probablement parce que vous ne parvenez pas =E0 obtenir le niveau
de rigueur et d'honn=EAteté intellectuelle des sujets que vous ne parvenez
pas m=EAme =E0 aborder, pire que vous polluez par pure impuissance! C'est
tellement plus facile de s'exhiber béatement alors que l'auteur, ici
Bataille, demanderait peut-=EAtre un peu plus d'efforts soutenus! Au lieu
d'utiliser la liste, vous devriez vous créer un lieu de discussion propre =E0
vos élucubrations. Mais il est déj=E0 trop tard de toute fa=E7on et je perds
mon temps avec de l'imbécilité. Il n'y a que les imbéciles pour ne pas
comprendre les enjeux ici.

>
>Al otro lado, already. Get with the beat, Anglo.
>
>Shaheena Faizi

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This happened to have serious people who once (you will excuse my lack of
English, I am french) has real interest in Georges Bataille. We also could
read their work and answer true questions.

>Mr. Bataille was a librarian with a few friends in high places. His daddy
>had the syphillis and his mama was none too bright either. The boy had to be
>a surrealist. No other choice. Dada and Surrealism saved his life.

	Nothing less sure about Dada and Surréalisme... Read the O.C. 1 and
2. It will change your opinion.

	Bataille wrote nearly 30 books and some are among the most
=ABpositive=BB contribution to contemporary thought.

	Everybody has the right to write, but nobody has the right to piss
off everyone with stupid shit that has any collective interest and  less
again with Bataille. It is not because Bataille experimented a
=ABdécloisonnement=BB between philosophy and literature in his writing that he
did it without =ABrigueur=BB. If you want to say anything then do it in private
mail with Ariosto for example. Since he is there, all those who used to
participate seriously are gone... Litterature do not mean anything goes

>
>What do you expect from a list devoted to a poor librarian who happened to
>be friends with Picasso? You expected an intellectual discourse, already?
>You must be looking for List Heidegger or List Kirkegaard or something. Them
>boys with degrees.

	Assertion of an anti-intellectual... By the way Heidegger once said
of Bataille: =ABBataille la meilleure t=EAte pensante en France
actuellement=BB... So!

	But to stay in the common =ABtone=BB, i will say that my dog is feels
fine!... Maybe this last sentence fits better the actual preoccupation of
this list on personal state of sub product of thinking?

	Say whatever you want, anyway that is what you already do... I
won't change my mind about it. This kind of conversation I that polutes my
computer since 2 years breaks all good collaboration that used to be
possible by this list, and this is not =ABpardonnable=BB, more it is a =ABcrime=BB.