File spoon-archives/bataille.archive/bataille_1999/bataille.9902, message 191


Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:20:25 -0600
From: Ashley Whitney <whit0580-AT-umn.edu>
Subject: Re: $


>Perhaps, I have not questioned Lacan. But as far as reading him I assure
>you I do nothing but.

I did not say you did not. It is evident from your wonderful email address
that you are quite, quite familiar with Lacan.

>I didn't say the subject is the signifier, I said
>"the signifier crossed by the stroke of the drive." And because I read
>Lacan, I have some quotes for you to explain to the list and to me who
>would like to know where Lacan talks about this mysterious "signified of
>the Other," and how exactly the "signifer erupts from the real"--this
>reference I have got to have! You don't mean _Television_, do you?

In any case, though it may have been through clumsy expression, you implied
the matheme $, the split subject, in fact stood for the signifier... to
quote:

>$=the Lacanian subject, that is the signifier crossed by the stroke of
>the drive (that is, the scopic drive).

I haven't time this morning to respond in full to so many biting, and
clever, remarks, but the 'mysterious' signified of the Other is hardly
difficult to locate in Lacan. In fact, the essay is even published in
English, which surely you have at least caressed in the fetishism which you
seem to be displaying, in _Ecrits_: 'The subversion of the subject and the
dialectic of desire in the Freudian unconscious'. I'll look up the page
numbers if you have trouble finding it.

>That's what you paraphrase badly, but there Lacan is talking, if I am
>not mistaken about "truth!" And that final thing, about the subject
>having a signified, really? Where exactly did you find that? [And to
>make it easy for you, I will assure you, that I will not respond with
>further references (You will have the last word (!) since "les mots y
>manque") I will simply proceed to read!

How do I badly 'paraphrase'? I was quoting. with the addition of one and
omission of two words, verbatim.

Anyway, I must be off. I will respond further at such a time as I have it.

http://www.tc.umn.edu/~whit0580/



   

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