File spoon-archives/bataille.archive/bataille_1999/bataille.9903, message 53


Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 10:59:56 -0800
From: Don Socha <347hqx7-AT-cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: our myth




Ariosto wrangled:

> Desire/joy are related to hope that is what you say Don.

Well, not actually entirely.  Surely there must be some satisfaction in
desire, something unresolved in satisfaction.  Echoes of Blanchot?
However....


> Hope is one of
> those overused words that seems to float without much support to give
> it practical meaning beyond rhetoric(in the worst sense of this word).

Precisely why it should not be dispensed with too readily.  It reminds us,
does it not, that all signification floats in this impractical sense?  It
is more obvious, is it not, that words do not fit the emotions they are
intended to designate?

Wish the same could be said for my own name at times.

What I'm saying is that the supposed practical meaning you would
appropriate is always an illusion.  Ever think your distaste for one sorry
designate, or your preference for one over another might be influenced
by... I dunno, economics, gender, politics, culture, race, religion,
society...?

Certainly you have.


> I think it has to do with utopian expression. Benjamin said hope is for
> the hopeless.

Precisely.  Desire is for she without desire, joy for he....

How does one or the other betray greater insufficiency?  A greater lack?
How do you measure emptiness, dear friend?  Are we talking Lacan now?

Oh, I know you tire of ellipses and crippled allusions rather easily these
days.  And we've lots to read and consider on this list of late.  So much
literature!  Please don't indulge my questions more than you would.  A
simple acknowledgment will suffice.  Glad you took the time to indulge me
as much as you have.  Let's keep our exchanges short and sweet for awhile.
Let us both enjoy our newfound wealth.

Faizi says she gets no reward for her most festive inclinations.  What do
you or I have to offer?

> I wonder if he meant that you had to loose it to gain it.

> I think that when something is taken away that we are reaching for then
> it just gains in value.

With a carrot of a nod on the end of a shtick of chaos....


   

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