File spoon-archives/bataille.archive/bataille_1999/bataille.9908, message 132


From: MFaizi5009-AT-aol.com
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:17:15 EDT
Subject: Re: water and rock


In a message dated 8/20/99 7:51:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
jmcrouch-AT-email.msn.com writes:

> I think the engendering of objects is what Bataille had in mind when he 
wrote 
> his pornographic novel(s). These ideas overflow into his philosophy, 
> economics, and aesthetics. His idea of excess is the idea of the erotic: it 
> is the ontological boundary of being crossed. The erotic is sex: the 
crossing 
> of female into male, male into female. 

How can sex or eroticism serve to cross the boundaries between male and 
female?  Can a woman become more like a man through sexual activity?  If this 
is so, then, should not more women be having sex more often?

I doubt the possibility that a woman will become more masculine through 
eroticism.  I think that it is much more probable that Bataille was 
fascinated with women and chose to have sex with a number of them on account 
of his horniness.  

I think that it is probable that he understood his feminine side much better 
than the masculine and that he chose to live his life largely based on this 
fact.  

>While the essay on Dali, "The 
> Lugubrious Game" (?), defines another set of erotic ideas, it follows this 
> pattern.

>  On male hardness: see Brecht's poem, "Iron" (?), where Brecht defines 
> himself as a tree.

Rather than simply alluding to this poem of masculine hardness, I think that 
you should supply it.  What did Brecht think of his masculinity?  Was it 
something that he admired or wanted?  Was it something that he deprecated?  
What caused you to think of it in relation to masculine hardness?

Do you think of masculinity as a detriment or an asset?  

Faizi



  
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