File spoon-archives/baudrillard.archive/baudrillard_1995/baudrillard.07-95, message 36

Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 01:47:17 -0400
Subject: Re: 5th order simulation

William writes:
>i'm not sure what '5th order' simulation would be (if 4th order is
>already supposed to be 'perfect' simulation, i.e., absolute erasure
>of the gap between true/false, real/imaginary, etc.). ' (4th order, where
>there is no reference even to this absence of the real, in fact, no external
>referentiality at
>all, just endless internally related 'hyper-references [like
>hypertext symbols on the web, repeating, recycling references that
>never touch the ground]).  this 'looking' back on' and 'describing'
>the present from this hypothetical future (simulations, after all,
>are just 'hypothetical events')

stephen: I would say we are perhaps closer to the fourth level now.



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