From: kellner-AT-ccwf.cc.utexas.edu Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 12:52:42 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Douglas Kellner Mr Shapiro, to continue the dialogue: Genosko covers over the extent to which I do engage Baudrillard's semiotics and it is precisely this aspect of JB that I like, his study of the life of signs in society, his play with the semiotic imaginary. I was also one of the first to relate JB to a French literary tradition that includes Jarry, Bataille, Ionesco, etc and far from thinking that pataphysics is a regressive aspect of JB I think its one of the strongest aspects and present the pataphysical element of JB positively-- indeed, this playful focus guides my study of JB and William Gibson in MEDIA CULTURE which was just cited on this list. I think that you have a stereotyped concept of a critical theorist which you straightjacket me into, just as Mike Gane has a stereotypical concept of a Marxist which he then projects on me. Read any of my books since 1989 and you'll see that I advocate a multiperspectival social theory that draws on both critical theory (FS variety) and postmodern theory, including JB AND that I constantly call for a reconstruction of critical theory beyond its traditional parameters and limitations... As for JB's fatal theory, this is not my favorite part of his work though I think I do enter into and engage this element of his thought in the last two chapters of my book. Indeed, I would ask you to explicate what elements of fatal theory you like, what you understand by it, and why you like it and if this is really the sort of substitute we want for a radical politics--though I do think we need to rethink politics in the light of new technologies and other elements of the contemporary moment, some of which JB so well describes... Douglas Kellner, Dept of Philosophy, Univ of Texas, Austin, TX 78712 kellner-AT-ccwf.cc.utexas.edu fax: 512 471-4806 Web sites: Postmodern theory= http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~kellner/pm/pm.html Critical theory= http://www.uta.edu/english/dab/illuminations/
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