Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 01:09:15 +0100 (BST)
From: Julian Thomas <julian.thomas-AT-dial.pipex.com>
Subject: re: introduction


To any one in charge of this list! Why is this still being bounced around!
Its not me!!!!

Julian



At 09:41 06/09/96 -0800, you wrote:
>>Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 23:29:02
>>To: baudrillard
>>From: Julian Thomas <julian.thomas-AT-dial.pipex.com>
>>Subject: Re: introduction
>>
>>>From: Julian Thomas <julian.thomas-AT-dial.pipex.com>
>>>Subject: Re: introduction
>>>
>>>>Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 16:59:51
>>>>To: AIDS ATHENS <AIDSATHE-AT-MUSIC.CC.UGA.EDU>
>>>>From: Julian Thomas <julian.thomas-AT-dial.pipex.com>
>>>>Subject: Re: introduction
>>>>
>>>>At 10:46 05/09/96 EDT, you wrote:
>>>>>Hey, it's not that easy. You application of   Baudrillard's theories to
>>>>>describe the essentially modernist character of educational programs and
>>>>>institutions seems very interesting. But I'm a new student to Baudrillar
>>>>>d and have little to share on the subject. Please share some of the insi
>>>>>ghts of your work with us on this list serve. I'd love to eavesdrop. --
>>>>>Patrick Allen
>>>>>
>>>>I'm new to this too! I'm involved in arts education, and I'm concerned at
>how the arts in general, and music in particular are failing students. A
>recent Gulbenkian report 'Arts in their View' found that only two percent of
>youth acknowledged being involved  involved in 'official' music projects,
>whilst over 90% used music as part of their identity. I think this is
>because arts programmes are modernist, whilst the consumers are living in a
>postmodernist society. Educational arts in the UK are elitist and treat art
>as objects, with the role of the school to inculcate into students into a
>dominant ideology.
>>>>Baudrillard seems to point the way for me, as he discusses the divorce of
>signs from signifiers. Symbols are used to create identity and social
>meanings by appropriation. Arts programmes, then, are aimed at a different
>site of activity and a different kind of activity. They are missing their
>social purpose. Educational arts is not geared to allow students to create
>social meanings ( a purpose I think of postmodern arts).
>>>>I think!
>>>>
>>>>Julian
>>>>
>This was in my OUT box, I don't know if I've sent it already, Appologies for
>repeating if it has.
>
>Julian
>Julian Thomas.
>julian.thomas-AT-dial.pipex.com
>Cambridge UK
>
>
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