File spoon-archives/baudrillard.archive/baudrillard_1997/97-04-26.234, message 112


Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:11:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Orpheus <cwduff-AT-alcor.concordia.ca>
Subject: Les Fils et Les Filles (fwd)




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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 00:16 + 0200
From: kath-AT-easynet.fr>
To: Orpheus <cwduff-AT-alcor.concordia.ca>
Subject: Re: resides the plassivity is death



> On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, rena maya wrote:
> 
> > Jill wrote:
> > > 
> > > OnThu, 17 Apr 1997, rena maya wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Jill wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It was you
> > > > >And  I love you too - ever since Gilles died it hasnt been the
same! his daughter went beserk. ALl over Paris chasing me! She wants me
too! and Im not sure I love her! > > > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > >         OH  u see my problem with mens is I is too hip,
> > >
> > too big hips break a man
> >  
> > >         too SINcere like Violette Leduc was.
> > >
> > sic! 
> > >         AHh   hihih
> > >  Thats the way Gilles brought her a Up!
	and with Felix and all those wild guys always coming over
> > > yiyiyiy with terrorists and schizo-drunks what can you expect???
> > > 
> > >                 "Alors, je deviens, Juif"
> > > 		Is what she told me,		
> > >         So she becomes a Jew
> > >         So he commenced to become a Jew
> > > 		So he could marry her,
> > >         "And so I commenced to write a booke." MY favorite line from all
> > > time, a feminist, thats why.
> > > 
> > 
> > who said that - she did!
> > ?
> > >         dada me got many mumme pupppeess.
> > > 	and you should have seen her face, when Gilles 
	"I will jump" they didnt beleive him!
	Im sorry I cant repeat their words in French, now I will never
speak French again. ANd if I win the next big prize I am sending a black
	boy to pick it up. God How I hate te French LAnguage!

	She told me about this pathetic little scene in Boston! which Im
including.	
	
> > >         tell Us how the Orgy went!
> > 
> > a dete-----rritorialized riot - really how neat
> > first a vie----tnam vet sits with us - then we all screwed without
safes
> > and starts Yelling how government debriefed him*
> > and how they fucked him *
> > but made him better* cool how did the big guy take all this? the piano
> player??*********************hes suck a  little repressed shit
> > then starts tellin us schizoism aint funny**** No kIdding!
> > how family wandered boston for years after a traumatic fire and died on
> > streets - Bomabay blues baby
> > then told pianoa player book- War what is it good ffor! wont save you
> > that what will solve his problems is reality (repeats four times - realy
> how cute!
> > then puts him in mock choke hold
> 
> >  
> > then two other guys show up both not having read chapter 
> > one is called sam
> > i shit you not *** this sam guy is a real phony but hes in love with**
> > so piano player says
> > and Sarah later meets Jill
> > *VERY IMPORTANT NEVER TELL PAco MY REAL NAME> > I MADE UP A genealogy and etymology today
> > I MADE UP A matyrology and philology today
> > ah, so your not dead
> > 
> > he took offense  - not  liek Piano penis player
> > a real schizo - just like you and the rich piano player to be
> > in and out of institutions - so unaccountable
> > Poor Sam! -being abused like that
> > wont look at you
> > says to PAcodn that's bullshit five times
> > i say it dont matter you havent read text you dead
> > he mumbles and whines- rhymes and wipes his ass with two beats a
second!
> > absolutely illegible conversation- legendary conversation!
> > other guy a dreamy eyed waif - woman jerking him in meeting like in
> > the movie Crash!
> > they leave
> > 
> > PAco and i hash it out- we kiss and make up
> > He has deep mongolian eyes
> > was alright, not the best lover Ive ever had, But I like cheating
> > from time to time *
> > come home and argue with Sarah cuz i sent her slightly faded
> photocopies  - Sam calls me very late saying he loves me too.
> > 
> > steamy emails from guy lover - or I needto die
> > 
> > must return to Sarah and settle it all out
> > hung up on her - things like "I need you badly"
> > 
> > one day i am totally hung on her - She says " Iwill beat you"
> > 
> > other days on the other - turns out I am love without organs, a
virtual space for men to fuck and fuck over 
> > 
> > i am screwed baby - Use a safe next - listen shes says "He loves you"
> > 
> > disjunctive synthetics - whatever says EJ! - crap says Sam
> > 
> > prozac naturelle - right sure give me back my guitar
> > 
> > methadone in my madness - give me shock treatments
> > 
> > return to inertia  - the practico-inert and I know yer right about
> > the theoretical dimensions of the being and appearance
> > 
> > return to heaven - return to bulls and cows
> > 
> > ah and now she emails me- she wants to go out with the guy in
> > Sarah that is- in montreal studying literature
> > 
> > 
> > so all will be well and all man especially whene we break up **
because Iam cheating kind of lover
> > trangression a dream aand So I am cheating on her while reading my
guattari and deleuze
> > 
> > O urania - O pomrania
> > fail knots plead with beggars
> > because you are a supreme simularcra
> > she a wet dream of my mastubation machine
> > 
> > 
> > sar cut cut cut ton
> > 
> > connect-i-cut copy cat 
> > i am the milk of kindness
> > ton of milk in my gullet
> > stubble rubble soiled and ruined
> > guzzle guzzle toil and trouble 
> > really didnt know I was such a lesbian use a block!
> > "nothing can stop this madness for it is the madness of words"
> >	you and I can with our love
> > 
> > 
> > de-lire - fou a delire!
> > eat your being and nothingness 
> > 
> > "eat the book" "eat me and love me"
> > 
> > eat your bitecomings!
> > 
> > go buy madelaines in combray if you really want to feel the vibrations
> > go buy coffee in dublin if you reallyw antt to get shakyee
> > a lot we care about yer mama
> > 
> > doubled proust -doubled joyce
> > 
> > elena lowensin is my lover
> > cette vampire dedoublee-double
> > she wanted to be a star she wanted to be a star
> > 
> > that rat's ass suspended from the sky
> > that pussy suspended from death
> > 
> > cut cut cut
> > clitoredectomy me love I was born in Somalia what did you expect?
> > 
> > i bleed - i shiver
> > throneless and free i escape and breath
> > of the thorns of the horns

> > of the lees of the weird edges
> > and the dregs and the pegs of the schizo nightmare
> > 
> > mouthing imaginary drags
> > on an endless cigarette that pretends to be a kiss an a primal tit
> > 
> > with death with breath of her breast  and bodice
> > a burning hole in the tissue of mind -sure kiss me
> > 
> >  
> >  how on the stage of history --this intimate theatre! 
> > can writing as excrement separated from the living
> > her mouth
> >  
> > In memoriam to Identity my world for hers
> > writing and difference
> > freud and the scene of writing
>onlythe poet knows for sure she Said > 
> > 
> > 
> > you know neither roots nor branch - no I have coffee by the seaside
> > you know neither a rhizome or a potatoe
> > a fat weed - a smmile before breakfasts
> > says Electra to Mama 
> > lack of tree -plenty of trees
> > lack of shade - lots of shade
> > 
> > the thing leaks
> > the heat beats
> > wet juice of plasir
> > wet palsirre of pen 
> > i am weary i am so energetic
> > 
> > 
> > keep the faith keep the being and nothingness void
> > kill desire exalt the daughters
> > extinguish the flame relight the Candles!
> > 
> > nirvana - cabanna!
> > 
> > become hindu-jew
> > becoming you for me
> > cabal of sinners of winners
> > becoming them and us
> > love is the becoming of nothingness
> > the most irish of wanderers and scrapers
> > american canadian
> > greek jew is jew greek
> > english is french french is english
> > extremes meet
> > 
> 
>   She really needs us
> 
> 	more than we need her
> 
> 
> 	take her out for a walk
> 
	She is after all, she is after all Us.




   

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