Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 23:02:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua LaBare <joshbear-AT-acpub.duke.edu> Subject: Re: M E A N I N G L E S S messages out of reason point taken, rr: where is the meaning in baudrillard? And what is this meaning Nikos is shouting about so much? I for one am not sure. Baudrillard is the philosopher who truly makes me ask the question: his statements, rather than being mere tautologies (like many of the earlier philosophers, I'm thinking esp. of Kant: "how can we make judgments? Oh, we must have a faculty for it..." etc.), seem at first to be totally unfounded. They are somehow poetic, a self-conscious view of the world. If I had really been reading the Carter messages I could make a comparison between him and B., but I have not: any one want to try? But tell me this, Nikos: what's so meaningful about insisting that we live in hyperreality, or that we live science fiction, or that all the Americans have going for them is great teeth? Are fat people really just a symptom of a society that wants to expand in space? Is anything B. ever says "meaningful", and in what ways? Isn't the fact that Baudrillard is our philosophe du jour a little strange in itself? Doesn't this tell us a little something about the fate of meaning in our society? A toi, Nikos, de repondre a ces questions, unless someone else wants to give it a try first. Bye, Joshua
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