File spoon-archives/baudrillard.archive/baudrillard_1998/baudrillard.9803, message 101


Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:54:35 -0500
From: Trent Smith <think-AT-sprint.ca>
Subject: Re: just a small thought...


evan,

please elaborate.  I am interested to hear what you have to say and why.



Evan A. Leeson wrote:

> Kroker is a reductivist, hyperbolic ninny with nothing of the philosophical
> sensitivity or grounding of Baudrillard. Kroker is a character in a William
> Gibson novel.
>
> Sorry I can't elaborate at the moment...
>
> :D
>
> evan
>
> At 01:00 AM 3/25/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >Mark O'Connell wrote:
> >
> >> >yep thats the book and thanks for the info. But as you say enough about
> him...!
> >>
> >> Why enough about him? We've had pages and pages on that syphilitic horse
> >> kissing loser Nietzsche. Wittgenstien, perverse as he is, is quoted
> >> endlessly. And of course Foucault (wouldn't be a party without him, god
> >> knows), even Marx. I mean what the fuck. Why shouldn't we hear about
> >> Kroker. He sounds interesting.
> >>
> >> Mark O'Connell
> >> oconnell-AT-oz.net
> >>
> >> "You can't write a chord ugly enough to say what you want to say sometimes,
> >> so you've got to rely on a giraffe filled with whipped cream."
> >> -zappa
> >
> >The following is from the Kroker's home page.  An exerpt of an interview from
> >Mondo2000.
> >
> >M2: You say we're in danger of becoming servomechanisms of
> >virtual reality. That's provocative. Is VR the 90's definition of
> >"getting a life"?
> >
> >AK: Getting a life is really about choosing your memory - you know, is it
> >memory or Memorex? We live in a really recombinant culture in which
> >the principles of recombinant genetics are lived out on a daily basis in
> >everyone's lives. If you live in the mediascape - and who does not? - it's
> >got ways to clone, splice, retranscribe and resequence memory itself.
> >So in that sense, the notion of getting a life is: getting another kind of
> >corporative way of moving through media itself. And you can't have one
> >life, you in fact have a variety of styles. That's the basis of the notion -
> >"Are we having fun yet?"
> >
> >M2: What is subjectivity in technoculture?
> >
> >AK: Subjectivity is always schizophrenic in tecchnoculture. Speaking
> >subjectively of subjectivity, of course! It's always lived in a double sense.
> >On the one hand your body is a processed world, processed as in
> >sampler music - the language of aliasing, of condensation, of
> >syncopation, of displacement, of speed-up and slow-down, all pretty
> >much digitally recorded. That's the normal language by which we live in
> >TV culture, in consumer culture, in our jobs and our music. Subjectivity
> >now is fully ironic, fully ambivalent, fully paradoxical and contradictory.
> >The technocratic specialist practices mechanical forgetfulness. that is,
> >they manage to so engross themselves in data work that they lose sight
> >of the ability to think deeply about what it means to be a human being
> >and to engage in social relationships outside the imperatives of the
> >technostructure.
> >
> >----------------------------
> >
> >enjoy!  Trent
> >
> >




   

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