File spoon-archives/baudrillard.archive/baudrillard_1998/baudrillard.9803, message 114


Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 10:14:38 -0100
From: Mr Dragonfly <johamar-AT-mmedia.is>
Subject: Re: Marxism, etc.


>Op dinsdag, 24-maa-98 schreef Soren Pedersen:
>
>SP> But not everything has surrendered to this logic (yet). Since you
>SP> obviously loathe Wittgenstein, I'll quote him again: "There are
>SP> indeed things that cannot be out into words. They make themselves
>SP> manifest. They are what is mystical" (6.522). Paraphrasing: There are
>SP> indeed things that are not digitally constructed. They simply make
>SP> themselves manifest. They are what is original.
>
>I know what you mean, Spinoza called them substances (he got the idea from
>Aristotle). I never found or met one however, only in the stories of good
>old Baron of Muenchhausen.
>
>-- erik
>
>
>
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Heraclitus:
(Fragment 53, Hippolytus Ref. IX, 9, 4)
"War is the father of all and king of all, and some he shows as gods,
others as men; some he makes slaves, others free."

Macrobius S. Scip. 14, 19 (DK 22A15)
"Heraclitus said that the soul is a spark of the essential substance
of the stars."

Fragment 93, Plutarch de Pyth. or. 21, 404E
Heraclitus: " The lord whose oracle is in Delphi neither speaks out
nor conceals, but gives a sign."



                                                 



   

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