File spoon-archives/baudrillard.archive/baudrillard_1998/baudrillard.9803, message 61


From: "Soren Pedersen" <122509816228-AT-post2.tele.dk>
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 11:07:24 +0000
Subject: Re: Why?



> >Baudrillard would consider the philosophical discourse of modernity
> >and postmodernity obsolete, because they both represent philosophy
> >from the subject's point of view. How exceptionally arrogant it is to
> >think that we possess the conceptual power to render the world either
> >true (modernism) or useful (postmodernism). We do not have that kind
> >of power.
> 
> This sounds similar to the conclusion implied by Camus. The problem is that
> it's still necessary to act.  I think this is where the notion of
> existential integrity came in. Arrogant or not it is necessary to make
> decisions about the world and to act on them. I really don't see a way out
> from this.

Don't know much about Camus, but as I said before, the space 
necessary to decide and act is virtually eradicated in hyperreality.

> 
> >ASSUME THE POSITION OF THE OBJECT
> 
> Interesting phrase, the police have you assume the position to be frisked
> and cuffed.  The phrase also suggests rape. All those capital letters give
> it even more of an authoritarian ring.  Anyway....   kinky phrase, but
> we're not objects.

We're neither subjects nor objects but simulacra (organic cyborgs). 
Our identities are entirely simulated.

- Soren

   

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