Subject: Re: Ludicrous Posts Rehabilitate My Faith in Language qua
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 08:47:31 -0700 (MST)
From: Gary Norris <garyn-AT-tatteredcover.com>



> realism vs anti-realism is about the chasm created by language. or, more
> accuratly, the percieved chasm created by language. the idea of the real
> has been lost - there are no real conditions of existence. the word real is
> just another piece in the language game - just another part of the code. 
> 
> nik


Not to belabor a point which you may be aware I am trying to make, nik, 
but, deconstruction aside, the critique "the idea of the real has been 
LOST" is absolutely correct.  I'd rather speak to this in terms of the 
mundane, though, in terms of the end of tragedy, the loss of the 
grotesque, the fascination (if not addiction) with the spectacle.  I have 
been reading JB for years now, began with Symbolic Exchange and Death and 
Transparency of Evil, but have moved ahead (actually, back) to Lefebvre, 
Vaneigem, Debord-- these guys are the ground for the work of JB hands 
down.  My feeling about your critique is something you pointed to above-- 
it is perceived.  Now how to subvert the perception of the everyday?
As an aesthete, I would want to say something like poetry, if it weren't 
so early and I had had some coffe.  

Kristeva and coffee
mmm mmm good

norris